Thread 715548890

I've seen more and more zoomers trying and dropping these games, dismissing them as archaic, frustrating, clunky, aged poorly, and mid. Before they used to at least give them the respect they deserved, but acknowledged they just weren't for them. Now it seems they are outright hostile towards these games and mock their legacy.

ALttP is just one example specifically where I can literally see the historical revisionism happening right in front of my eyes. Zoomers are now trying to push this idea that it was never really that good, that it's overhyped, bland, and the combat is frustrating.

im sure you based your experiences with zoomers on a high number of interacted in real life and not ragebait posted on xitter/instagram/4cuck

Guys?
Hello?

And?

GUYS THE TROONER ZOOMERS ARE TOTALLY DOING THIS THING!! PLEASE GET MAD!

>zoomers are retarded
yes we knew for years, some shitpost, ban evading, or coomer thread died for this

i used walkthroughs to skip all dungeons, too complicated and frustrating, just not fun

Reminder that there are people, IN THIS VERY FUCKING THREAD, that don't acknowledge A Link to the Past as a masterpiece.

>>715548890 (OP)
Some games are just shit

>>715549314
>Zelda 1 that low
Holy fuck kys. Zelda 1 holds up incredibly well and is a blast even today

>>715549314
>Zelda 2
lol filtered game is giga based

>>715548890 (OP)
Good. I want retro shit to be cheap to buy again and watch resellers get fucked out of their "investments".

>>715549314
>Zelda 2 in F
shit taste.

>>715548890 (OP)
Zoomies are contrarians but this is one example of gamerboomer nostalgia.

ALttP is great but every single 2D Zelda after it (minus four swords/triforce heroes) is superior. Dungeon design is still very samey (not to mention identical music) and Skull Woods, Ice Palace, and maybe the final gimmick of Thieves Town are the only real memorable parts.

>>715549314
what a horrible list...

>>715549314
Majora's Mask is overrated. Put it in B tier. Bring Link to the Past up to S.

>>715549425
>>715549459
>>715549486
>>715549531
>>715549551
All NES games are an auto F. That dogshit console has nothing good. Imagine shilling Castlevania 3 on this board. Aint nobody got time for that

You're thinking of "normalfags".

>>715549314
>TP over 1 and 2
lol, lmao even

https://youtu.be/YxJ2rv_bUh0?si=JZH_lTZprY1NJeYK

>spends entire video talking about how shit the games are
>9/10

Josie is so hot, Nintendo shilling aside

>>715549609
I imagine zoomers must view the NES like I view the Atari 2600 kek

>>715548890 (OP)
They sound cringe. Don't care. Ignored.

Based zoomers not being sheep and blindly thinking these games are good. Nintendo games are overrated.

>>715549609
Zoomers are an embarrassment.

There are at least like 40 games on NES that still hold up extremely well and are very fun today. Zelda 1 is one of those

im 32 and i find that top down dungeon puzzle zelda games are more appealing than recent zelda

>"i'm 16 and this is deep" writing
>terrible voice acting by confused actors
>completely lifeless world
>ugly cardboard box "cities"

>>715549694
its crazy how being a borderline retard and ugly girl can still garner you so much attention

ZOOMER STOOMERS CHOOMERS ARE DOING THE THING AHHHHHHH

>>715549609
>Zelda 2
>FF/DQ
>fucking Mario 3
Nah, NES was rough but still evolved enough to be relevant even 40 years later

>>715549459
>>715549486
>>715549657
Funny how this thread is about historical revisionism and now people are pretending Zelda 2 is some high IQ “git filtered” masterpiece.

It’s not as bad as people say and some stuff is ahead of its time but there’s some truly retarded dungeon design here that has nothing to do with difficulty.

>>715548890 (OP)
tendies have insane nostalgia goggles and brand worship, zelda is garbage

>>715549498
>Zoomies are contrarians but this is one example of gamerboomer nostalgia.
And millennial hipsters weren't the same?

>>715549967
i don't see anything wrong with that pic

>>715548890 (OP)
you millennials already did this with games older than the NES

>>715549967
Zelda 2 isnt high IQ but iti s a fun action platformer, always has been. Always called retards for seething over it yet trying to prop up actual garbage like castlevania 2

>>715549609
Castlevania 3 MOGS all "metroidvania" slop.

>>715550186
It's worse than Zelda 1 in almost every way though. Overworld, dungeons, combat, obtuse progression, a shitty jarpig grinding system, even graphics are all way worse.

>>715550621
it's almost a total different genre, you can't really compare them

>>715549967
Zelda 2 is fun

OP is an extremely insecure OoT babby who knows deep down that it's his childhood game that zoomers are recognizing as being vastly overrated.

I'm honestly not a freak for link to the past. It really is a little bland for me. I would rather play the original on nes or links awakening on gb. In the original you get to explore openly and become stronger while doing so and I find that to be lots of fun. Link's awakening brings personality and charm to the series. I'll take Metroid over Zelda on SNES

Yeah this game sucks HARD. The only reason boomers liked it was because it was all they had. If it were released today it would be some indie cash grab slop with 6/10 reviews and a couple thousand steam reviews at best

>>715549890
AT the very least Gen X/Millennials gave a shit about rebelling somewhat, now every zoomer is some sort of pop culture obsessed numbersfag and turbo conformist. At the very least the ones that aren't tankies.

>>715551296
This is obviously a shitpost, but I just beat ALTTP recently for the first time and it quickly became one of my favorites of all time. Just an incredibly solid game across the board; the combat, overworld, dungeon design are all phenomenal

>>715548890 (OP)
>Please talk about Zelda

>>715549890
>predicts covid
>bad

>>715551595
Did you enjoy the ice dungeon, anon?

>>715551950
Yes, actually one of my favorites.

Just go back to your garbage live service threads.

>>715548890 (OP)
Holy kek you Zelda grandpas are obsessed with us

>>715551762
I want to talk about the upcoming movie or the possible OoT remake instead, getting sick of the BoTW/ToTK "eric" banter T B H.

>>715548890 (OP)
The only way zoomers know how to defend something new is by trying to tear down something popular from the past.

>>715551595
>Just an incredibly solid game across the board; the combat
Kek? Play a real game

>>715550186
>but iti s a fun action platformer, always has been
It was subpar even at the time. Mario, Megaman, and Metroid completely shit on Zelda 2.

Elder zoomer (1997) coming through with objectively correct tastes.

Prove me wrong. Oh wait,
you can't

>>715549017
>>715549017
>>715549017
FPBP
OP in shambles

>>715552859
Such as?

>>715553273
Bait

>>715553480
These are my honest and true opinions, Anon.

>>715553716
Then you're just retarded

>>715553273
mostly correct, but Link's Awakening should be (much) higher. Preferably the colour DX version, too.

>>715548890 (OP)
>implying i care about shit opinions
i bet you care about metashitic numbers.

>>715553273
>Zelda 2 that high
Zelda 2 is just a downgrade in every way from Zelda 1 and has a shitty horribly balanced jarpig grinding system that has no place in Zelda.

Worse overworld, worse exploration, worse combat, worse dungeons, shitty magic system, horribly balanced jarpig grinding system, worse hitboxes, more obtuse progression, etc.

Only the most contrarian of retards would prefer it.

>>715551762
I don't think the OP of those threads wish to "talk" about Zelda.

>>715548890 (OP)
Link to the Past is a 7/10. It gets way too much praise, it's not even close to being the best 2D Zelda game.

>>715554297
Kys retard

>>715554072
I like the Ku Klux Klan members you fight in it though.

zoomers have offloaded all their thinking skills to quality of life features and cant problem solve to save their lives any amount of friction and they look up the solution that someone else has solved for them, AI is going to be the final nail in the coffin for newer generations having any original thought not already prepared for them by someone else or some algorithm.

>>715554394
Implying that is a bad thing

>>715548890 (OP)
Link to the Past is a 10/10. It gets way too much flak these days, it's easily the best 2D Zelda game.

>>715554351
Prove me wrong, pro-tip you can't. A 9/10 game would be something like Ninja Gaiden Black. It's definitely not as good as that and it's not close enough in quality to be considered an 8 either. It's full of obtuse nonsense and uninteresting shit.

I'm a zoomer that played through all the Zelda games a few years ago and really enjoyed ALttP. I didn't find anything clunky about it besides the menuing, but the series has had worse. The original LoZ I had fun exploring but anything to do with the combat infuriated me. I don't enjoy meleeing enemies with random movement that deal contact damage.

>>715548890 (OP)
It's mostly a matter of patience to learn new systems, to learn new control schemes, and to accept the sometimes less polished or experimental elements.

Some have higher learning curves than others. A lot of people don't have the patience for this.

I probably can't sit through an entire playthrough of a PC-98 hexagonal strategy game, but I can at least appreciate them.

>>715554394
You are just decribing low IQ people its not just zoomers bro

>>715553273
>putting botw high and totk low
This is so lame. You're ridiculous.

>>715554770
social media and instant gratification for content has burned all the dopamine receptors for people giving them adhd symptoms, these people cant into older games with that level of attention span

>>715548890 (OP)
>zoomers have shitty opinions
we know, we've had this same thread dozens of times

>>715554394
>they look up the solution that someone else has solved for them
That's really what makes a ALTTP so terrible. It's full of one of a kind solutions to problems where there's no satisfaction from having solved them so of course people will look up the solutions.

>>715555007
How I see late 80s Japanese PC simulation games is probably how others see SNES games.

Remember they were attractive since they did something NEW. For a PC-98 adventure game, that would be an indepth story, detailed still images, music, and options. A hex strategy game would tell this grand campaign through simple graphics.

None of these are very novel today. So when you play them you can only see the flaws.

I can really appreciate some of the games before my time, like Wizardry 1, Daisenryaku, etc. Basially I started with consoles, so these PC games from the 80s are a bit too much for me. But if I were 6 when these came out I'd think they'd be the coolest.

https://www.mobygames.com/group/11319/game-feature-hexagonal-map/sort:date/

>>715555456
>It's full of one of a kind solutions to problems
That's.... what a fucking puzzle is you subhuman zoomer shitstain

>>715555535
Also check out the time investment in many of these older PC RPGs and sim combat games? Yikes. There's iterally hundreds of these games and not enough lifespan to play them all.

>>715554567
You haven't even beat NGB on MNM you fucking poser faggot, kys.

I bet you're also one of those retards who thinks no game can be higher than a 9/10 because "le 10/10 is perfect and le no game is perfect!"

>>715553273
honestly the best zelda tier list ive seen
just knock phantom hourglass down and trade it for links awakening

>>715553273
Based

It's nearly unanimous many many times that the Oracle series are considered the Pinnacle of LoZ but I always wondered them why not did future games follow them and why did the trend not go that way?

>>715548890 (OP)
>Zoomers
Lost me there. No one gives a ahit what they like or do. They contribute nothing to anything, anywhere.

>the retro market is going to finally come down and crash after the shit and abuse Jewtube did to it
love it

>>715548890 (OP)
>generational shitflinging thread
whatcha doing rabbi?

>>715556019
It's because OoS and OoA were basically lightning in a bottle which is so good but can't easily be replicated again like the 2005 Chicago White Sox for example. Peak but never again

>>715549891
being retarded is a plus for girls and she's not fat, automatic 8/10

>>715548890 (OP)
Why would I care what they think?

>>715553273
>Phantom Hourglass above Link between Worlds and Spirit Tracks
You are genuinely mentally ill

>>715555635
Don't be obtuse. There's a world of a difference between puzzles in a puzzle game and what we have in ALTTP.

>>715556547
There's not really though

I'm 33 years old and I've never played a zelda game other than totk when I pirated it but that shit doesnt count. should I be concerned?

>>715548890 (OP)
It's not a zoomer thing, I'm a zoomer and I enjoy OOT, Zelda 1, even Zelda 2. ALLTP is just bad. The combat is atrocious

>>715549017
Fpbp
Sage
Go back OP

>>715556653
Nah
Emulators exist and you can easily play literally any old Zelda at any time
It's never too late

Video games are the only medium where people shit on the old to elevate the new. It's a symptom of an inherently corporate pasttime. You don't see people trash the literacy canon to big up the new Hunger Games. But you do see people dump on OG game to hype the remake. It's because gamers are corpo bootlickers and unpaid marketers first and foremost.

>>715556665
>enjoy Zelda 2.
>ALLTP is just bad
You are a fucking retard

Zelda 2 is just a downgrade in every way from Zelda 1 and has a shitty horribly balanced jarpig grinding system that has no place in Zelda.

Worse overworld, worse exploration, worse combat, worse dungeons, shitty magic system, horribly balanced jarpig grinding system, worse hitboxes, more obtuse progression, etc.

Only the most contrarian of retards would prefer it

>>715556745
huh?

>>715549017
holy shit op destroyed

>>715556824
>You don't see people trash the literacy canon to big up the new Hunger Games.

Uh
You have good points but this example doesn't really work
People basically acted like Battle Royale never existed

>>715548890 (OP)
As a millennial who played this last year I can say it feels extremely overhyped. Name the most memorable dungeon/boss

>>715548890 (OP)
Good.
Don't care.
Vidya games are for losers

>>715557010
The worm guy with multiple segments and the stage had holes everywhere

>>715556636
You really can't see the difference between a puzzle game where the mechanics remain the same and the parameters change and the way it often works it ALTTP where you just have to try every tool in your arsenal to find the solution and you'll never have to do anything of the sort again? You can't fail the puzzles in ALTTP if you just keep trying, there's not anything to figure out. It's just a matter of knowing the solution, that's not interesting.

>>715548890 (OP)
I don't give a flying fuck about anything anyone born after 9/11 thinks about anything.

>>715555635
>>715502982

>>715556019
They were developed by Capcom, so Nintendo more or less wants to forget they ever happened because they can't claim full credit for them.

>>715548890 (OP)
zoomer like literal nigger garbage like fortnite and five nights at freddy's, their opinions are less than meaningless, them talking shit about these games only serves to elevate them to an even higher stratosphere, it's like the highest praise a game can get if a zoomnigger doesn't like it

I think the fundamental issue I have with zoomers is just that they are too pop for me to really get down with them. You can't listen to metal or rock or whatever without boring them. Let alone jazz or electronic music. It's all just tween girl taset and yet even the dudes have that sort of musical sensibility nowadays. I don't even really think the doom ost isn't anything better than slipknot as well. The thing is, I actually like the newer vocaloid stuff more than the old ones, back then that shit was just too cheesy for me to like but is that like all the shit you listen to zoomoids? That's also why I stick with manga and don't watch anime. Even if that vampire banana tit lady looks fine as hell

>>715557256
>best Zelda games ever
>developed by someone else
funny that

>>715550186
>Filtered by Castlevania 2
Are you not embarrassed about showing how much of a pleb you are?

>>715557308
This but there's also the problem that they drive sales and viewership and engagement numbers so there's really no good solution to the problem

>>715557086
Those are just different types of puzzles you moron. Puzzles almost never have a failstate beyond just "try again"

>>715557010
>dungeon
Hyrule castle with a godtier soundtrack for the area
>boss
I'm partial to the sand boss,Agahnim, and Helmasaur King, but Moldorm is probably the most iconic

>>715557386
lol

>>715548890 (OP)
Why the fuck would anyone care about what the ADHD Fortnite generation has to say about video games?

>>715548890 (OP)
Could you please give me some examples?

>>715548890 (OP)
albw is better honestly

>>715557086
>more than one type of puzzle exists
>this confuses and enrages the brainlet

>>715548890 (OP)
Idk, I've replayed the entire franchise up to TP many times and ALTTP is always my least favorite so I kind of get it

>>715556219
Would it be a monkey paw situation if they remade the Oracle games but in the same engine and style they remade Link's Awakening?

>>715548890 (OP)
I love ALTTP, it's a masterpiece game that holds up today (in my opinion), but if kids don't want to play it, that's fine.
There are plenty of C64, Atari 2600 and ZX Spectrum games that I have zero interest in, largely due to controls, that I'm sure are considered masterpieces, and it's fine if I don't play them.
If anything, we should be happy that younger generations have new and exciting ideas of what games could be, at the expense of leaving the past behind, we need that frenetic creative energy these days.

>>715557439
>>715557718
>Those are just different types of puzzles
Did I ever dispute that they were puzzles? I'm saying they're boring. What are you even trying to say?

I think the only objectively bad thing about older video games, and this only applies if you can't read Japanese, is that the translations are at best, overly literal and awkward to read and at worst, complete rewrites. There's also a lot of censorship in Nintendo games from the 80's and 90's.

I just never cared for zeldaslop when I had all these turn based kinos

>>715548890 (OP)
I like it more than Zelda 2, but definitely not more than Zelda 1, Link's Awakening, or the Oracle games
and honestly I think Zelda 2 might overtake it if I buckle down and finally get good at it

>>715557335
My younger brother is gen z and everything he likes needs to be pre approved by being popular with streamers and e celeb figures. Music, vidya, moral values and even the way he speaks emulates e celebs. I find it a little bit unnerving at times

>>715558151
It's because they're NPCs with no brains

They're more sheep than human at this point

>>715558012
I hated Zelda 2 as a kid but after coming back around to it as an adult it's one of my favorites in the franchise. The only truly bullshit part is that one hidden cabin and the hidden village

>>715548890 (OP)
I was born in the 1998 my first game I ever played was SMW my second game was LTTP. I still replay it regularly and hold it as a 10/10 Zelda along with OOT and MM. I am the norm relax.

>>715558151
Thing is even the most normalfag of millennials surprises me when they pull up an artist that has at most 500k views on youtube when it's time for everyone to listen to each other's music. With zoomers, it's always the hits either past or future.

>>715550578
Castlevania 3 doesn't even mog Castlevania 1.

I'm 35 and I still think I'm correct in my opinion that Zelda 1 isn't that good and ALttP is an absolute masterpiece and it's not just because I'm 35 instead of 45.
The reason is that even though Zelda is my favorite game series, I don't like Zelda 1 very much, but do love Mario 1-3 on the very same console. I'll replay any SNES Mario but it's hard to stomach Zeda 1.
Admittedly I haven't played enough Zelda 2 to judge it. It seemed better than 1 at least to me.

>>715558437
Is Castlevania 4 really a better game Rolfe?

>>715548890 (OP)
Shitllennials have ZoomGODS rent free in their little zogged heads, just keep drinking your sọylent and admiring your funko pops, Millennial-kun.

>>715558482
>I'll replay any SNES
*NES

>>715558437
Literal faggot

>>715558543
Please understand SOMEONE PLEASE TALK ABOUT ZELDA

>>715558482
ALTTP is the other only classic game that aged well besides MM and maybe MC & LA.

>>715548890 (OP)
>Zoomers are
Don't care.

>>715558482
The adventure game genre was best in the 90s.

I've seen this exact thread before. Is it still the same faggot OP?

>>715557338
>Best Zelda games ever
said literally no one who played Minish Cap whose main mechanic is micro transactions

>>715558653
I think a lot of them age well. My point is more that most NES games aged like shit except Super Mario and Mega Man. Even original Mario Bros. feels like trash and the SMB3 version of it is way better. It's all about control for platformers. In Zelda 1's case isn't technically controls, but similar. Walking directly up to an enemy and your sword just going directly forward truly feels like garbage.

>>715556019
>Unanimous
Endless threads bitching about mandatory events
Capcom dick suckers in full effect because their own games are shit

>>715558482
Theres nothing on the NES that is good besides Mario. I would rather play gacha

>>715548890 (OP)
And why should anyone care about the opinions of gen Z? They're subhuman waste of oxygen

>>715558821
Ages seasons has better mechanics and itemization than minish

>>715548890 (OP)
I don't hate LttP, but I prefer both the two games that came before it (Zelda 1/2) and the two that came after it (OoT/MM). They were more ambitious and interesting.
And well it plays well, I thought the two Oracle games did its style of gameplay better.

So yes, it's not bad. But its far from the magnun opus of the series. It doesn't stand out, it's s "just alright".

>>715558543
zoomcucks are vaxxed retards who will all be dead within a year

>>715553273
Here's you crown King

>>715549609
weak and lazy bait

>>715558943
I like playing life force/salamander/OG gradius

>>715549314
Twilight Princess should be A or B at worst.

>>715558437
>>715558507
>>715558594
>Rondo> Castlevania 1> Bloodlines > 4 > 3
>CotM plays better than SotN despite being utterly soulless by comparison.
>Castlevania 64 was as frustrating to play as it was cool. It deserves its mixed reception. But it was still their best attempt at 3D, and Konami was foolish to abandon it completely.
There, all the Castlevania opinions you'll ever need.

>>715548890 (OP)
Just use a guide, retard

>>715559970
Sotn is king and you know it

>>715549890
>characters in a video game say oppression and corruption are le bad
>for some reason this triggers anon

>>715560072
Did you mean to say Aria of Sorrow?

>>715557556
Renting/buying dungeon items is gay.

>>715560341
No fuck that gameboy shit

>>715557935
Sounds like your reasoning skills are shit and you're lashing out at the game for not iterating solely on what it spoon fed you earlier.

>>715560434
Plebian

>>715559612
Its mid just like MIDna

If a game is older than you, your opinion on it doesn't matter. Simple as

>>715560515
It should be A for Minda's ASS.

>>715559970
cotm > bloodlines > belmont's revenge > rondo
the rest are shit games

>>715554919
totk was just a low effort cash grab

>>715560573
>If a game is older than you, your opinion on it doesn't matter. Simple as

>>715549952
Mega Man's pretty good

>>715560072
SotN is peak soul and I enjoy how unbalanced it is. And if I was ranking its overall experience, I'd put it as the best Metroidvania. But I think Rondo beats it out. And I wish 64 was the better game, it's not, but I really wish Konami did 3D Castlevania the justice it deserved.
>>715560341
AoS is good, though I wish Soma waddled a little faster after experiencing Juste dashing in and out of existence, or even Nathan sprinting a marathon with his 3 frame run animation. Still, headhunter is my favorite in the series.

>>715560998
>though I wish Soma waddled a little faster
True but eventually black panther made me forget that ever existed

>>715561065
Yeah but you get it at the tail end of the game after you've already got nearly everything. Sure you can rush for it but your average first time player won't know this

>>715558821
>Minish Cap
>main mechanic is micro transactions
what the actual fuck are you talking about?

ALTTP legitimately is just not that good.
The SNES is a system that really looms over you as a Nintendo fan. Everything gets compared to the SNES. Zelda games are never as good as ALTTP, Mario games are never as good as SMW or Yoshi's Island, Donkey Kong games are never as good as DKC, no Metroid is ever as good as Super Metroid, no RPG is ever as good as Chrono Trigger or FF6 or Super Mario RPG.
I happen to not share a lot of these opinions, and I'm sick of being told I'm wrong, frankly.
SNES kiddies have had it coming, is what I'm saying.

>>715562353
The overworld consists of a series of paths and you're almost on a straight jacket. I found Link's Awakening and Ocarina and Adventure of Link more fun.

>>715549017
fpbp
>>715549475
Never happening poorfag

>>715558885
You've played like five NES games.
Mario and Megaman aren't even the most impressive sidescollers. That'd be Batman or Gimmick or something.

>>715562353
>Zelda games are never as good as ALTTP
link's awakening*
>Mario games are never as good as SMW or Yoshi's Island
mario 64*
>Donkey Kong games are never as good as DKC,
donkey kong 94*
>no Metroid is ever as good as Super Metroid,
this one is objectively true though, but also no game will ever be as good as super metroid
>no RPG is ever as good as Chrono Trigger or FF6 or Super Mario RPG.
chrono nigger and super niggermario rpg are shit, ff6 is good but it's nowhere near the peak of the genre
your retarded hyperbole is an ill-informed strawman

>>715554919
I liked exploring in BOTW. It felt like a adventure and it fresh, a shakeup the series desperately needed.

TOTK was the same world, already a massive flaw, except you're over powered with crazy traversal options at your disposal.

TOTK also didn't fix the biggest issue with BOTW, the dogshit dungeons. TOTK's story is also far worse. It retardedly barely recognizes BOTW as a predecessor and has these awkward retcons as well.

>>715556482
ST is worse PH because the train sucks dick.

ALBW is good but loses points for copy and pasting the ALTTP overworld.

>>715563531
I like Fusion the most.

>>715562353
>Everything gets compared to the SNES.
I fail to see how this is a bad thing.
>Zelda games are never as good as ALTTP
That hasn't been true in 30 years. It will always live in OoT's shadow. And zoomers will flock around BotW.
>Mario games are never as good as SMW or Yoshi's Island
There is a constant debate between 3 and World. Personally, I prefer 2. Also Yoshi's Island? No one sings high horses about that.
>Donkey Kong games are never as good as DKC
There is legitimately not much of a series beyond DKC.
>Metroid is ever as good as Super Metroid
Yeah sure Super is the king of the series, and for good reason. But it's not like the rest of the series doesn't get it's due of praise.
>no RPG is ever as good as Chrono Trigger or FF6 or Super Mario RPG.
A majority of RPGs were on Super Nintendo at the time. What else would you expect? Also did you forget FF7 exists?

>>715563756
My entire life people have been saying ALTTP is better than OOT. It's like the go-to "I'm a real gamer" opinion.
And, it isn't. OOT is better. Zelda 1 is also better.

>>715549314
don't listen to them, Majora's Mask does indeed belong in S tier. everything else is fucking wrong tho.

>>715564027
I'd agree. I even think Zelda 2 and MM is better. But I also have the opposite problem were most Zelda fans I know won't try any games before Windwaker. Infact the only way I got one of them to play OoT and MM was through the 3DS remakes.

Idk anon
I slowly got fed up with modern bullshit and realized there's no point in spending crazy amounts of money every few years to play the newest AAA garbage.
Nowadays I just emulate PS2 games on my PC, or play on my old PSP fat, or emulate older consoles on my phone. I've never been bothered by "clunkiness", it often has its charm.
t. 2001 zoomer

>>715554567
>A 9/10 game would be something like Ninja Gaiden Black
>zelda is full of obtuse nonsense and uninteresting shit.
The irony. They're both mid. NG, as all Team Ninja games, is full of dumb shit.

>>715565036
Based realizer

>>715563682
i hate linear meme horror-chase metroid, and especially FUCK adam

>>715564027
ocarina of shit is dogshit nigger trash for faggots, easily the worst game in the series, majora's mask is better than it, wind waker is better than it, even shitty ass janky ass zelda 2 is better than it

I couldn't care less about overrated old man games where most people hyping it up these days probably are only playing it for the first time.

Most of the PS2 era onwards are just as playalbe today.

I never beat ALttP before. Should I play the Snes or GBA version?

>>715566464
SNES
GBA has annoying voice clips and a smaller screen resolution.

>>715566001
>most people hyping it up these days probably are only playing it for the first time
Why is that a bad thing? It's an earnest opinion if nothing else, no one can even make nostalgic accusations.

>>715566450
>PS2 onward
*Pong onward. Most of the actually fun arcade games can still be fun today.

>>715553273
How the fuck are the oracle games that high

>>715548890 (OP)
My favourite game is the Original Half Life

>>715564027
100% this

>>715557086
Give an example of a puzzle you can brute force in ALTTP.

>>715548890 (OP)
Really? If anything I see overwhelmingly they're turning on modern AAA slop and the sales numbers support this. Where as with retro vidya I see more and more of them open to and actively exploring the 90s and 2000s games than ever before.

>>715569495
Bait

>>715566464
You should play alttp randomizer. Its the best way to play alttp.
Also makes the game feel fresh.

>>715569495
>GBC Zeldas that low
The fuck?

>>715569682
Yeah?

>>715554394
>they look up the solution that someone else has solved for them
You mean what everyone being has been doing for millenia? Every aspect of your life has been the result of countless years of gradual societal contributions by people better than you are. AI is just another tool.

>>715572402
noooooo you're supposed to get turned around and waste your time so the game is like an 80 hour nostalgia filled experience!

>>715572402
>You mean what every human* being has been doing for millenia?
fuck me

>>715548890 (OP)
as long as young girls are playing it, i win

>>715549967
my only problem with zelda 2 is that you only get a pocket knife to use instead of a sword

>>715549967
Where's the annotated version that has labels like "Fairy - that's what you are."

>>715548890 (OP)
I found A Link To The Past more fun than Ocarina of Time

Does anyone have the screencap of dozens of zoomers shitting on SMB3? I need to add it to my West Has Fallen folder.

>>715548890 (OP)
Zoomers should been aborted they are idiots and cunts. They genuinely are npc who lack a soul.

>>715549314
besides the NES zeldas at least everything else is about right

>>715563096
>Gimmick
Kino taste

>>715557556
/thread

>>715558482
>I'm 35
post wizard powers or gtfo

Played through LttP 2 years ago for the first time. Its a masterpiece.

>>715566450
I still play my ps2 often, my ps2 and 3 see more use than my 4 and I haven't even bother to buy the new one

>>715548890 (OP)
Gate keeping classics away from people the have propensity to ruin everything is the most preferrable outcome.

>>715553386
Pocky and rocky. An actual good snes title.

>>715579103
ALTTP absolutely shits on Pocky & Rocky, the arcade game, the SNES game, and the sequel that came out recently, I've played all three.

>>715579106
These sites aren't "Real". They're filtering only the most motivated to post a reply, and this is like 35 years after the game's release. The only people who are going to post something is the negatives. Retro game and nintendo circle jerking have their own websites.

You'll never get a consensus on anything. You will always get a loud 1% who says the most isnane things, and in the real world you can ignore this or never even account for it. On the internet, minor fringe positions are elevated because they can group together.

So it's a fallacy to take 15 reviews and make a broad conclusion about anything.

>>715549017
This, surely it's the age group at large and not a handful of retards who watched a youtube video made by an even bigger retard and decided to make said video their opinion (most likely without ever playing the game).

>>715549017
Fpbp

>>715566450
This is largely because the controller you are connecting to your PC is the same controller used for the PS2 onwards. A ton of older games get a bad rap by people who never play them on their intended control style.

>>715548890 (OP)
I hated the boss for the forest dungeon.
Constantly moved around while you had to deal with the moving floor and spikes.
Plus because his weakness was the fire wand you had to spend time refilling your mana.

>>715563572
None of that means TotK is a worse game though.
If I go to the theatres and watch a largely unremarkable but enjoyable movie and enjoy it.
Then I go and see one of the most widely beloved and universally praised movies of all time. But the guy in the seat next to me keeps spoiling every single event of the movie as it happens. The front row is full of mothers with babies that keep crying loudly. The dipshit behind you keeps dropping his popcorn on you. Etc, etc.
And it might have made your movie experience miserable and you end up having enjoyed it far less than the movie that was undoubtedly unremarkable.

But this does not mean that the practically by objectively by far superior movie is a worse movie. It means your experience of it was ruined.

>>715548890 (OP)
>dismissing them as archaic
they are literally made off the foundation of old 80s dungeon crawlers.

>>715579340
I'm inclined to agree with them. I beat SMB3 for the first time last month with no save states on OG hardware (MiSTer) and I just found it a frustrating slog. The level design just felt so haphazard and sloppy, it had no flow like the original SMB did, Mario feels even more slippery than the first game, I didn't care for the constant stupid minigames, and the artstyle is just downright ugly.

>>715579849
Well you're a dumb nigger for one? The platforming is very precise, and very much improved over 1. The entire game is like a big obastacle course and marathon with tons of variety.

>>715580394
The levels just don't flow, level theming is nonsensical, hazard placements feel haphazard, readability is poor.

It's just not a fun game at all, and levels lack that flow that SMB1 had. it's also like 4 hours long with no saves, and is full of constant time-wasting minigames and slow-scrolling test so lacks the pick up and play aspect of the first

>>715581505
>It's just not a fun game at all,

So there was a hypno ray in 1989 though? Sure fooled a lot of people.

There was a /vr/ thread back in May of some guy who seemed like a zoomer playing this game over and over again. Like 4 times I think and it ended with him beating it in one sitting. Pretty neat to keep up with, they liked the game a lot.

>>715581721
I mean if it was the only game you had to play for a year straight as a kid, there is a lot to do, especially for an NES game, and Stockholm Syndrome would probably set in and you would eventually enjoy it.

But today, it's just not fun at all compared to the many, many other platformers out there, including other Mario games. In terms of actual level design, it's very weak and they went for quantity and bloat over quality.

>>715548890 (OP)
no one like this games

>>715549314
Zelda 1 is infinitely more fun when you already know what to do. It's a great action game for the NES.

>>715548890 (OP)
I'm going to be honest with you OP, nostalgia is real and it's unrealistic to expect younger people to view old games the same way you do.

You're going to form strong attachments to games that you played during your childhood or other significant parts of your life. You remember playing them with your friends or being hyped as fuck because it was the most technologically advanced thing you've ever seen in your life.
Zoomers are going to play these games because boomers overhype them to shit, and then wonder what the big deal is because they're missing the historical context.

I have a large family and have experienced this many times with my nieces and nephews. The best you can do is express your own enthusiasm for the game and hope it rubs off on them, but you cannot expect them to feel the same you did playing it for the first time.

>>715549017
DELETE THIS

>>715549498
I still think the Ages/Seasons duology are the best Zelda games.

>>715583254
Based

>>715583075
Honestly this. I find to be that either someone has a taste for older games or they just don't. If they can't get over that hurdle it is legitimately not worth trying to firce them over it. And it wouldn't be unrealistic to assume that number is shrinking as the time gap lengthens. The ammount of people playing videogames as exploded since 35 years ago, and the advancement of games has plateud creating a new norm of expectations. It really isn't like back then where people had to often make due with older handmedown games of last console from big bro because the handmedown games are hardly different. It really is us lucky few.

I do think, vidya can live on. People just need to learn positive thinking. Being a bitter faggot or an elitist snob won't help.

>>715548890 (OP)
even as a kid in the 90's I legit didn't give a fuck about anything before gen 5. call them classics if you want but most of those games are legit boring

>>715549314
it is an eye opener to see how half of the Zelda franchise is mediocre. even as a former zelda fag I can't believe I was a fan for so long

i didn't play alttp through to the end until about 5 years ago
it was pretty good but i enjoyed links awakening more, which i played on visual boy advance in the early 2000s
i'm 35 btw

>>715549017
> interacted in real life

Zoomers don't interact irl. They will just stare blankly at you. They only do interaction through social media.

>Zoomers realizing how average overrated SNES games are
Yeah. Don't blame them.