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8/10/2025, 7:31:30 PM
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>it's still a monster that could be beaten with armor-piercing bullets.
Nah. There's a subtext to Alien where it actually seems to be able to pass through solid objects like a ghost.
>facehugger passing through Kane's helmet
>big chap moving in an impossible way through the vent shafts, as shown on the motion tracker
Part of the whole thing Ridley seemed to be going for was this strange thing that you'd never know what it's really capable of or what it would do next. The "Alien"- ness of it.
There were some way scarier ideas that were cut from the final film, like the egg morphing scene (which kinda did return with the Prometheus black goo), and the Alien killing Ripley at the ending and recording a final crew log in her voice (which also kinda returned with David recording a final crew log as Walter in Covenant).
In short
>in which case it moves from "grounded sci-fi" to bullshit species territory
Yea I think that's what I like about it. And it's what I like about Prometheus and Covenant. Not many people notice it or talk about it, but the xeno is overtly shown passing through solid matter in Covenant. And like a classic 50's horror flick, there's a subtext implication of the Neomorph wanting to pass through the 4th wall.
>most of the horror in alien can't be replicated; you can't be surprised by its lifecycle a second time.
The thing is they did it with Prometheus and Covenant. New dimensions of disgust brought to concepts that were played out by the non-Ridley movies.
>only the implications
That's what real horror is. Jumpscares only go so far.
>in the second film, it shows how fast and agile facehuggers are, which makes them an actual threat when loose.
"I might die" is the most pedestrian fear.
"Experiencing the pain of birthing an unnnatural creature is an extreme of sado-masochistic experience I might not entirely find unpleasurable" is a kind of horror that continues to crawl up and down your vertebrae.
>it's still a monster that could be beaten with armor-piercing bullets.
Nah. There's a subtext to Alien where it actually seems to be able to pass through solid objects like a ghost.
>facehugger passing through Kane's helmet
>big chap moving in an impossible way through the vent shafts, as shown on the motion tracker
Part of the whole thing Ridley seemed to be going for was this strange thing that you'd never know what it's really capable of or what it would do next. The "Alien"- ness of it.
There were some way scarier ideas that were cut from the final film, like the egg morphing scene (which kinda did return with the Prometheus black goo), and the Alien killing Ripley at the ending and recording a final crew log in her voice (which also kinda returned with David recording a final crew log as Walter in Covenant).
In short
>in which case it moves from "grounded sci-fi" to bullshit species territory
Yea I think that's what I like about it. And it's what I like about Prometheus and Covenant. Not many people notice it or talk about it, but the xeno is overtly shown passing through solid matter in Covenant. And like a classic 50's horror flick, there's a subtext implication of the Neomorph wanting to pass through the 4th wall.
>most of the horror in alien can't be replicated; you can't be surprised by its lifecycle a second time.
The thing is they did it with Prometheus and Covenant. New dimensions of disgust brought to concepts that were played out by the non-Ridley movies.
>only the implications
That's what real horror is. Jumpscares only go so far.
>in the second film, it shows how fast and agile facehuggers are, which makes them an actual threat when loose.
"I might die" is the most pedestrian fear.
"Experiencing the pain of birthing an unnnatural creature is an extreme of sado-masochistic experience I might not entirely find unpleasurable" is a kind of horror that continues to crawl up and down your vertebrae.
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