Thread 213553794

>*get written out of being canon*
Ridley bros.....

Rest in piss.

not more alien shit. just let it die

they're all different timelines/canons
>alien 1 and 2
>alien 3
>prometheus and covenant
>AvP
>predator
>romulus
all seperate

>>213553826
You forgot Resurrection.

>>213553794 (OP)
Prometheus II should have been a slow burn, pensive road trip story about Shaw and David's head traveling through the ruins of the Engineer civilization. They're Virgil in the Dante Divine Comedy, but in space and with HR gieger weirdness. It should filter the plebs, who leave the theater saying "but nothing happened, there were no explosions wtf?"

>>213553794 (OP)
Good riddance

>>213553794 (OP)
That ship has sailed with Romulus.

>>213553854
I dont think he did anon

>>213553794 (OP)
>Ridley
>Hasn't directed a single good film since Legend
>People still think his opinion on anything film related should matter

>>213553826
yep, exactly. Ridley wanted to reboot the series but not openly say so. It's hilarious that he tricked some really dumb people into taking those movies seriously as prequels kek. Everything is way more advanced, the aliens are way more deadly and fast, literally everyone in the galaxy already knows about them now, and they recreated the first movie then go off in a wildly different direction kek

>>213553794 (OP)
How? The last Alien movie that came out, whatever the fuck it was called, has an engineer in it

>Ridley is sick of the alien and hates it
>doesn't want it in his movie
>Ridley loves android movies especially where they hate their creators
>wants to make a new movie with guaranteed audience so he slaps the Alien label on it
>it's just a bunch of empty mystery boxes and his beloved android story, so the audience rightfully gives it poor reviews
>in retaliation, Ridley makes a sequel with even less of what people wanted, the Ancient Creator Aliens, more of what he wanted, Evil Androids, and more of what no one wanted, random ass alien beasts snarlingly then getting killed off
>and because he hates them, he put them all on fast forward: now they implant, burst, and grow to full size in 60 seconds flat

>>213554068
Dat Romulussy.

I didn't mind Prometheus of covenant that much.
I'm looking forward to pic related but I'm not really fussy.

>>213553794 (OP)
no matter how hard anyone pretends even ridley himself
they are literally just not alien movies

>>213553861
We were robbed.

>>213555354
engineer movies would be the way to go in terms of saving and deviating from the tired old xeno alien, they could have made a great franchise and keeping it only loosely connected with the space jockey's connection to them, not explaining anything else and not having any xenos in the movies. i dont think its ridley's decision to keep making the same Alien 1979 movie over and over again even though he's also retarded. covenant was supposed to be more of an engineer movie but became an even more generic xeno movie than prometheus.
they planned a giger style engineer city for the planet but scrapped it.

Alien 3 and Prometheus were disappointing as they could have been great

>>213555475
Engineers are an interesting idea for their own scifi story, but they ruin the Alien story completely. It should have always been its own thing.

>>213555503
thats what i said.

>>213553794 (OP)
Like a streaming show by the guy who couldn’t understand the movie Fargo gets to decide what’s canon to the Alien film franchise

>>213554068
Romulus directly referenced Prometheus

>>213553861
Blame whiny cunts on the internet and the cowards at Fox who thought they should be listened to

>>213553794 (OP)
for what reason david killed engineers?

>>213555354
Honestly, based. I'd be sick of the xenomorph too if I were him.

>>213555579
Well he can fuck off. He doesn't own the xenomorph. And it was never popular because of him. It's popular because of Aliens. He doesn't get to tell everyone else they can't have it anymore because he's bored of it.

>>213555390
I love these cheesy posters.

>>213553794 (OP)
idiot thinks Alien Earth retcons the prequels when the literal black goo is shown in the videos of the xenomorphs life cycle promos for Earth

>>213555626
that's a baby xeno, they get MUCH bigger

>>213554856
>Gladiator is... le BAD
fuck off

>>213555617
Yeah, Alien was incredibly unpopular and that’s why they made a sequel. Fucking idiot

>>213555390
>>213555660
i hope there will be a general here, i haven't watched anything new in years.

>>213555660
kino

>>213555576
He was disgusted by how far they've fallen and decided to put them out of their misery.

>>213555617
I love Alien because of the Xenomorph, Giger, and what Ridley was aiming for with its horror. It's subtle and occult.
Nobody really loves Aliens for the Xenomorph, they love it for the Colonial Marines.
Nobody really loves Alien 3 for the Xenomorph, in fact not many people love it at all. The few who do love it, really love it for being a quirked up David Fincher movie.
Nobody loves Alien: Resurrection.
The Xenomorph was run into the ground. All menace was taken out of it with Aliens which was really the death knell for the whole concept.

Scott is completely in the right. Rogue androids are the most interesting part of the franchise he created.

>>213555774
>Nobody loves Alien: Resurrection.
I do.

>>213555475
>not explaining anything else and not having any xenos in the movies
Having another form of alien arise from the black goo would be fine though, like the squid in Prometheus, but agreed we don't need anymore xenoslop. It's a moot point though, no one will ever make an interesting, original new concept/film in the Alien universe. it's over

>>213555794
There are some good scenes and its interesting to look at at some points with how uniquely 90's its production is
But come on. The hybrid is probably the worst thing to come out of this series.

>>213555847
Is it though? Even Giger said he liked the movie.

>>213555555
czeched

>>213555774
>Nobody really loves Aliens for the Xenomorph, they love it for the Colonial Marines.
wrong, nigger.
aliens gave a name and identity to the "company", vastly expanded the universe (like how empire strikes back expanded star wars), and gave the queen lifecycle, which opened up tons of storytelling avenues (such as aliens: phalanx).
colonial marines is the cherry on top of the sundae, and people have far gobbled up too many sundaes without cherries since 1986.

>>213555617
Alien is popular because of Giger's designs and Cameron refused him even though he really wanted to work on the movie.

>>213555863
So? Giger wasn't perfect nor all of his ideas 100% amazing. He wanted the sexy lipped girl xeno in Alien 3 and they laughed him out of the room

>>213555863
I always thought the scene where clone Ripley gets carried to the Queen would have been something Giger would have liked.
And I like the scene with the jars of failed Ripley clones.
But the most memorable thing about Alien 4 to me is how cringe it all is. It's like a bad comic book.

>>213555911
You say this, and yet there hasn't been a single "Aliens" sequel movie. Everyone wants to copy Ridley.

>>213556034
I'm just saying I really don't think the Newborn was that bad. He fits the freaky body horror theme of Alien.

>>213556034
>He wanted the sexy lipped girl xeno in Alien 3 and they laughed him out of the room
They made a mistake.

>>213556044
There's been a shit ton of Aliens entertainment in game, comic and toy form. It's what everyone wanted more of. It's literally why the Aliens franchise is the most confusing one around. They ran it into a brick wall with Alien 3 then for decades since refuse to make what the fans actually want. Blomkamp understood that fans wanted a return to right after Aliens movie. And who stopped it? Ridley's senile ass that was jealous of Aliens success. He's the one preventing it from continuing where fans want, not everyone wanting to copy Ridley. Blomkamp's movie would have done amazingly well and we'd have a successful trilogy of it by now too.

>>213556148
That's a lot of cope.

>>213555726
Not understanding that Aliens cemented the franchise it created in cinema history. Yes Alien is still the better film

>>213556034
That was a great idea quite appropriate for the setting. I imagine the crazy guy would've died trying to fuck it.

>>213556176
Says the fanboy still coping that Ridley's trash movies will never get an ending. Your tears are glorious.

Not only is every Alien sequel trying to copy Ridley, even Fox wanted Ridley to copy Ridley.

>>213556034
>He wanted the sexy lipped girl xeno in Alien 3
yeah, who'd want that? that'd be weird haha

Prometheus and covenant were amazing. The alien films are the only good franchise left standing. Terminator is shit, predator isn't great. Even if you found thing to dislike in the recent two alien films, you have to admit they are miles better than most of the other slop being pumped out.
>great set design
>atmosphere was still there
>the aliens were still a threatening presence
>David in both films
>Still provokes discussion, not true for terminator ect
>first half of covenant was insane

>>213556266
What makes you think I need an ending?
If it's not continued, Ridley's prequel duology ends with David poised to unleash endless monsters on the galaxy for eternity.
I couldn't be happier.

>>213556315
they aren't alien films though. that beast is cooked. these are David films.

>>213556044
>You say this, and yet there hasn't been a single "Aliens" sequel movie. Everyone wants to copy Ridley.
for video games, we've gotten aliens fireteam elite, aliens: dark descent lately, and alien: rogue incursion. there are also tons of toys and comics.
you stuck to one media to prove a point, but then again, avp requiem took military inspirations from aliens (even if the scenes sucked), and alien romulus borrowed heavily from aliens.

>>213556266
Not him but Ridley is working on his own Alien movie now and Romulus 2 will have even more connections to the prequels.

>>213556419
romulus 2 might even connect to the RPG or the Comics if Kay's body reanimates cause of the black goo and starts becoming a Prefected or new woman in the dark

>>213556315
Yeah, they're fine. The harping on about the stupid decisions the scientists make is tired.

>>213556392
There are a handful of great Aliens related games. I think the best are the AVP and AVP2 FPS games from 1999 and 2001.
Aliens: Fireteam Elite and Aliens: Dark Descent seem like ok games, but they aren't making any kind of cultural impact like the films did.
And as further argument for my point, that no one really likes Aliens for the xenomorphs: the Halo videogames were actually a huge cultural phenomenon that eventually dethroned Hollywood in 2007 - Halo 3 being the first game to make more money than any movie that year.
Halo has its alien antagonists (in some ways both the Covenant and the Flood are cheap knockoffs of the Xenomorph film design - also with some The Thing and Predator and Star Wars mixed in) - but it lifted the Colonial Marines from Aliens wholesale, and that's arguably at least a third of the reason it was a success.
Hell there was also Starship Troopers which did the same thing.
People don't watch Aliens because they like being scared by the Xenomorph.

>>213556642
>People don't watch Aliens because they like being scared by the Xenomorph.
similar to the scp foundation. it's the elements of dread and uncertainty against a heavily militarized faction that makes people like them.
could you make a colonial marines project with non-xeno aliens? sure.
>no one really likes Aliens for the xenomorphs:
people like the xenos as the punching bag, because cameron (and ridley) made them iconic the same way cameron made the colonial marines iconic.
(for example, cameron made facehuggers actually scary)
both are tied together because that's the franchise cameron created them on.
regardless, colonial marines are just a portion of aliens. a third of the movie is ripley rescuing newt, albeit with cm weaponry.

>>213553861
fake smiles are creepy

>>213553826
‘79, Isolation, and ‘86 are my headcanon trilogy.

>>213557368
>people like the xenos as the punching bag
Ehh. See that's the thing.
I like the Xenos as a horror monster in the first film.
As in, something to be genuinely scared by, and it still does get me. It's genuinely freaky - although now moreso for its occult symbolism than the reasons it initially scared me.
Aliens is a good film, but it's not really a horror film.
Kind of by nature, you can't really repeat horror. It's a very old cliche to say part of what makes horror work is the unknown, but it's true, and when your monster becomes known and trivial it's no longer really scary.
It's no longer really "alien".

>cameron made facehuggers actually scary
This I've got to disagree with. The facehugger is terrifying in the first film.
The effects are great in Aliens, making the facehugger more of a creepy crawly spider and more of an action threat
But the whole issue of parasitic symbiosis and the sexual connotations of the facehugger - still horrible. What a great movie creature.

>>213557678
Aliens is a horror film. It's way scarier than the first movie. They actually have guns and armor and still get their shit wrecked. The first movie the creature barely does anything but slowly float around while everyone screams their heads off like retards

>>213557758
Aliens is a horror film in the sense that your brother jumping out a dark closet with a monster mask on and shouting "boo" is a "scary experience".
Alien is a horror film in that introduces paradigm-shiftingly unsettling ideas.

>>213557678
>I like the Xenos as a horror monster in the first film.
yeah, well, it's still a monster that could be beaten with armor-piercing bullets.
unless you add "le magical regeneration" or make them bulletproof, in which case it moves from "grounded sci-fi" to bullshit species territory.
most of the horror in alien can't be replicated; you can't be surprised by its lifecycle a second time.
>The facehugger is terrifying in the first film.
only the implications. otherwise the moral in the first film is "don't stick your head into opened alien eggs" and you'll be fine.
in the second film, it shows how fast and agile facehuggers are, which makes them an actual threat when loose.

>>213558054
>most of the horror in alien can't be replicated; you can't be surprised by its lifecycle a second time
It's weird this is so difficult for them to grasp. They're so stuck on the idea you can just infinitely remake the same first film and still be surprised and scared at the mysterious alien every time. And they're seething so hard that someone would instead continue it in a logical direction and make it even scarier since it's not handicapped by being in a spaceship now

>>213556148
>Blomkamp's movie would have done amazingly well

Blomkamp's movie would have been another iteration of that one movie Blomkamp always makes: documentary-style shaky cam with videogame fights, chunky robots and/or men in robotic armour, and a patina of social commentary about the haves and the have-nots, with Wey-Yu acting as the evil rich people this time around.

You can tell it would be like this just by looking at the concept art you posted. The guy is wearing "Blomkapf armour."

>>213558185
prometheus should have been the official break from the xenomorph slasher body horror facehugger movies, and became existential horror, but its too much for hollywood to create and too much for goyslop consoomers to digest.

>>213553861
Imagine her swishing your cum inside her mouth.

>>213553794 (OP)
Prometheus>AvP>Covenant>AvPR>Alien>Aliens>Alien 3>Alien Resurrection
Non-biased list from someone who recently watched all of the movies for the first time (other than romulus)

~magic goo, magic goo~
~does whatever the writers need it to~
~magic goo, magic goooooooo~

>>213558399
>who recently watched all of the movies for the first time
That literally means you have the worst opinion of all and should be ignored. Binge watchers who have no stake in anything are complete idiots. You have not thought, you have not considered, you have not ruminated, you have not let them settle. You consoom as fast as possible and regurgitate whatever idiotic shit falls out of your face. Then move onto the next.

>>213553794 (OP)
He he's not getting a spinoff?

>>213558054
>it's still a monster that could be beaten with armor-piercing bullets.
Nah. There's a subtext to Alien where it actually seems to be able to pass through solid objects like a ghost.
>facehugger passing through Kane's helmet
>big chap moving in an impossible way through the vent shafts, as shown on the motion tracker
Part of the whole thing Ridley seemed to be going for was this strange thing that you'd never know what it's really capable of or what it would do next. The "Alien"- ness of it.
There were some way scarier ideas that were cut from the final film, like the egg morphing scene (which kinda did return with the Prometheus black goo), and the Alien killing Ripley at the ending and recording a final crew log in her voice (which also kinda returned with David recording a final crew log as Walter in Covenant).
In short
>in which case it moves from "grounded sci-fi" to bullshit species territory
Yea I think that's what I like about it. And it's what I like about Prometheus and Covenant. Not many people notice it or talk about it, but the xeno is overtly shown passing through solid matter in Covenant. And like a classic 50's horror flick, there's a subtext implication of the Neomorph wanting to pass through the 4th wall.
>most of the horror in alien can't be replicated; you can't be surprised by its lifecycle a second time.
The thing is they did it with Prometheus and Covenant. New dimensions of disgust brought to concepts that were played out by the non-Ridley movies.
>only the implications
That's what real horror is. Jumpscares only go so far.
>in the second film, it shows how fast and agile facehuggers are, which makes them an actual threat when loose.
"I might die" is the most pedestrian fear.
"Experiencing the pain of birthing an unnnatural creature is an extreme of sado-masochistic experience I might not entirely find unpleasurable" is a kind of horror that continues to crawl up and down your vertebrae.

>>213558561
>bunch of made up headcanon
kek, no.

>>213558399
Not the worst ranking I've seen though I'm surprised to see AvP:R so high.

>>213558608
You're afraid of being afraid.
Understandable, but quite boring.

Alien>Aliens>Prometheus>Romulus>Covenant>Alien 3>Alien Resurrection>AvP>AvPR
biased list from someone who isn't retarded

>>213558561
>New dimensions of disgust brought to concepts that were played out by the non-Ridley movies.
no new disgusting shit was ever brought up in those movies, except maybe for david experimenting with shaw. everything was still an allegory on birthing.
whatever existential horror alien brought up with the space jockey was replaced with albino space jesus.

>>213553794 (OP)
I liked prometheus and covenant (after watching the deleted scenes, reading the original script, etc that helped me understand) and I didnt even watch romulus. Niggers tonge my anus.

Is obsession over "canon" an autism thing? You know none of this actually happened right? The idea that one fake story is the "real" fake story is retarded, you realize that right?

>>213558986
Prometheus:Alien::Romulus:Alien
Romulus is a flick, a fun romp with interesting setpieces and fan service
it's much better than Covenant

>>213558953
Man am I glad I'm able to enjoy high concept movies.

>>213555555
goddamn

>>213559092
then elaborate, then.
yes, there are themes of gods and creation, but those are not remotely "disgusting" nor horror.

>>213559053
its about continuity, ever heard of context you retard?

>>213559117
Perhaps it better not for you to know

>>213558054
>"don't stick your head into opened alien eggs"
The thing that horrified me about the hugger in alien was that it just straight up jumped through the sci-fi materials of the EVA suits visor dome right onto the face without slowing down and all in an instant. That suggested speed, power, precision and intelligence far beyond what would be required of what is essentially a walking ovipositor. Heck, in aliens the xenos tied people down before impregnation and the freed ones in the lab were beaten by a table. The one in alien can probably murder you through an armored window panel which is harder then most walls in your house, not to mention enough acid to sink a battleship.

>>213558467
it's a tween horror movie series.

>>213559357
>"hmm. That looks like a nice face"
>*bursts through the floor at you*

>>213559053
Well, if you only see movies as a momentary distraction that ends the moment the movie ends, that would make sense. If you, however, decide to think about all the shit you just saw and its wider implications and invest your precious time and interest into it it is generally more rewarding to have substance and logical consistancy over finding out that j.j. abrahams doesn't actually know what is in the mystery box.

>>213556044
Water scene from 4 was kino

>>213559621
4 is just a box of donuts. It's a bunch of silliness but not meant to be taken seriously as a meal.

>>213559357
you're making it out to be much weirder than it is, its just specialized to be strong and explosive, humans are the exceptionally weak species, animals can have freaky speed and strength.
the facehuggers'agility and strength isn't that supernatural at all.

>>213558561
>xeno is overtly shown passing through solid matter in Covenant.
?????

>>213559813
his own headcanon, its probably the same autist who acts like the 28 days franchise is some highbrow redpilled anti-civilisation masterpiece when its made by midwit liberals.

>>213559813
>>213559849
As I said, most people don't notice it
https://youtu.be/wXbdxE2Oys0?feature=shared&t=13

>>213560034
what am i supposed to see here? its just showing the xeno through his eyes.

>>213556557
What comic is that in? I read the Fire and Stone stuff and don't recall this creature.

>>213560103
Playing dumb bores me.

>>213560179
lmao
just admit this is your own bullshit fantasy. the whole scene literally revolves around the xeno not getting past the fucking doors. are you talking about the bit where it descends down the ladder? do you think thats solid?

>>213560234
>are you talking about the bit where it descends down the ladder?
You mean the part I clearly linked with the timecode, in which the xeno's entire head, shoulders, and back spines pass through the floor next to the ladder?

>>213560319
you mean the shitty cgi fuckup?

>>213560370
It's only a fuckup if it was unintentional.

>>213559808
It accelerated itself to cannonball speed to burst through hardened material and lost exactly enough knetic energy not to crush the much weaker human skull behind it while surviving the impact unharmed. It's like the modern tank dilemma: Any weapon with enough force to penetrate the armor will have so much energy left on the inside that the crew is instantly killed no matter what survival mechanisms you build into it, i.e. the better the armor the lower the chance of crew survival. Obviously the writers didn't think of that, but as the viewer it suggested things to me once you understand that.

>>213560387
why would it even use the ladder or get stuck anywhere at all if it canonically can just melt through anything terminator 2 style? its obviously just shitty cgi not meant to be spotted in a 2 second clip.

>>213560393
>It accelerated itself to cannonball speed to burst through hardened material and lost exactly enough knetic energy not to crush the much weaker human skull behind it while surviving the impact unharmed.
Nah. This is on the right track, but you're still trying to fit the facehugger to conventional physical laws.
No matter how you look at it it doesn't make normal sense.
The glass from the helmet should have shattered and Kane's face should have been full of shards of glass and cuts after the facehugger was removed.
Instead the helmet is somehow morphed around the facehugger as if it were melted.
If this is supposed to be because of acid, there are no burns on Kane's face or the rest of his suit and body, and we clearly see how much the acid can eat through later.
So it neither broke through the helmet physically, nor melted through it with acid.

>>213560393
you're looking too deep into it and i never imagined the spacesuits to be some kind of special reinforced fantasy armour either. the fact it has to break through means it would decelerate aswell.

>>213560426
It's not melting into a liquid and passing through holes too big for it to normally pass through T-1000 style, it's phasing through solid matter.
You could argue it's just "shitty CGI" but this is an extremely high budget movie with great CGI throughout its entire runtime otheriwse.
There would be so many ways to work around this issue of it being too big to fit in the port hole too - they could have depicted it starting to go down the ladder, or shown only its legs and tail slinking down the ladder in a way that makes physical sense.
In fact I don't think that ladder set is used at any other point in the film, so they could have just made the hole big enough to fit a Xenomorph.

but no they took the time to animate it passing through the floor

>>213560393
Can you go more in depth on tank armor killing the crew?

>>213560482
Yeah, obviously I'm being a bit hyperbolic because I have no idea what the canonical strength of the helmet is (NASA ones are just plastic, funny enough). But again, how the fuck did that eyeless vagina crab plan that shit so accurately for a strange species with artificial armor of equally unknown properties within the few seconds of swimming around its cozy goo egg.
>>213560521
Hence why "intelligent" enough to calculate the deceleration. From what we can tell it was one fluid motion with no time to react for the victim (IIRC). The thing was also smart enough to threaten the victim with strangulation when they tried to remove it, something that absolutely would not work on an animal (could be reflex, though).

>>213560692
>>213560692
>Hence why "intelligent" enough to calculate the deceleration. From what we can tell it was one fluid motion with no time to react for the victim (IIRC). The thing was also smart enough to threaten the victim with strangulation when they tried to remove it, something that absolutely would not work on an animal (could be reflex, though).
this is just a case of making a movie without 5000 autistic "realism" details for the sake of making a movie, ive never seen talk about this crap, yes maybe in reality a spacesuit would be hard to crack, but in this movie you're simply seeing a very strong exploding-spider type alien break through it, simple as.
the choking thing is part of its whole anatomy, its basically impossible to get rid of it before it impregnates, including the arm/finger strength it has, acid blood, and the choking part is also part of how it opens up the airways of the host to implant it, and it gives the host air through its body. the facehugger isn't really intelligent, its just a very specialized and efficient bug thats super hard to kill or dodge.

>gets facehugger on him
>doesn't go unconscious and is still talking, yelling, and resisting
>facehugger is cut off in seconds resulting in acid burn
>still somehow has chestburster inside him

>>213560837
in romulus they also managed to get it off quite fast but it apparently just implants very fast and still sits on the host for a while, i believe it eventually dies when the chestburster gets out? i dont remember where/if i've seen that anywhere though.

>>213560653
Isn't really much to it. When you overcome light armor that is resistant to small arms with something like a heavy machine gun you make a hole in the armor and if nobody is standing behind that hole the bullet will simply hit the other side of the crew cabin and maybe ricochet or spall a bit.
If you hit an MBT with a HEAT charge of sufficent force you have a big bunch of high explosives concentrate its force into a copper rod to instantly turn it into plasma and shove it through the armor. This leaves a hole the size of your pinky. Meanwhile on the inside the copper plasma stream and leftover explosive force suddenly no longer have a steel tunnel to contain them and rapidly expand into what is inside, aka crew and readied ammo. Since weapons engineers would rather err on the side of caution AT weapons often overmatch their intended target. For the Panzerfaust3, for example there is a control rod in front of the warhead that you can extend up and down to regulate how much force should be concentrated before it hits the armor to increase the crew killing effect in case you are massively overmatching the target.

>>213560034
I haven't noticed that. Maybe we were looking at it through David's eyes there.

>>213560831
Yes, and? I said it was weird (and thus scary) to me because the writers clearly didn't account for the implications of the face hugger being able to do that. Where is the problem? It was always about my subjective understanding of the situation and how it was unnerving for me.

>>213560990
ok fair

>>213560625
>but no they took the time to animate it passing through the floor
nigger, noclipping the model through the floor is the opposite of "taking the time to animate".

>>213561053
Sure, if the goal was to animate it obeying the laws of conventional physics.

>>213561082
you must hate covenant so much that you started larping the mistakes as intentional

>>213561053
hes just trolling

Aliens Dark descent is kino AF btw

>>213561105
You're so very very dull.
If it isn't clear, I like Alien: Covenant quite a lot.
And I especially like how it bothers people like (You).

It's kind of amazing the knots people will tie themselves into mentally to avoid being scared by a silly 70's horror movie.

>>213560034
Damn that looks pretty bad.

>>213561267
that clip was actually released publicly before the film.
i thought it was just some temporary placeholder cgi until i saw the actual film.

>>213561144
Call me when they make avp extinction for pc with multiplayer and a map maker

>Alien
>Alien: Romulus
>Aliens
>Alien 3
>Alien: Resurrection
Thats all you need.

>>213560034
It's obvious the intention is to show it's backcocks folding backward to fit in the shaft. There's some lazy VFX on the first one.

>>213553861
Also they should have had a tamed deacon as their pet/sidekick who occasionally tries to kill them

>>213561144
>tfw we didn't get any DLC
Sad. Was hoping for an expansion with some wacky content from the comics or something, seeing as the devs were clearly not afraid of going out there.

>>213553861
Blame the actress for quitting for no fucking reason, she had the potential to be the new Ripley and David and Shaw exploring the engineer planet would have been kino

>>213560140
alien bloodlines and icarus

>>213556367
Prometheus biggest error was being linked to Alien. They would have evolved in something on their own

>>213561267
Frankly it's Alien: Covenant's "was Deckard a replicant?" question. (of course the answer is "Yes he was").
Can the alien actually pass through solid matter or was it merely bad CGI?
Does this re-contextualize the Alien as a more incomprehensible monster than people previously dared to think? Like did the facehugger actually pass through Kane's helmet - something everyone had previously tried to rationalize? Did the Holloway monster in Prometheus actually phase its limbs through itself as it stands up, impossibly dis-contorting, or was that just a silly editing oversight? Are these movies attempting to depict a believable monster that could exist in physical reality, or are they really about a more spiritual horror?

>>213561146
im a random anon who has followed the conversation and i will interject that its clearly a CGI fuckup

Fuck Jonesy
Fuck Brett
AND FUCK YOUR BONUSES

>>213561697
I say it's intentional. And also maybe the most interesting thing about the movie.
People will potentially be debating this for decades.

>>213560882
It's non-canon crap. It's incredibly obvious that they're just bored with waiting the requisite amount of time. They want to skip through it as fast as possible. Instead of days to make more xenos, it takes seconds now and it's retarded. Just cheapens the entire series. They don't even need chestbursters anymore since they pop out in the miniature form then grow to full size immediately.

>>213555911
>people have far gobbled up too many sundaes without cherries since 1986.
Where do they still sell sundaes with cherries?

>>213561284
>ywn put a squidbaby in this cutie

>>213556034
That was a Kino idea (planet of prison rapists getting raped by feminine alien) and would have elevated alien 3

>>213557678
I definitely lament never being able to see alien for the first time without being so exposed to the xenomorph

>>213561432
She didn't quit, the studio demanded a new protagonist.

>>213562056
You have my sympathy, anon. I still vividly remember being too scared to shit on the toilet after watching alien as a child because our toilet had a ventilation shaft above it. I had legit constipation issues because of that.

>>213562090
that was debunked

>>213553794 (OP)
I WISH they were non-canon.

>>213553794 (OP)
plebs were filtered

>>213555503
>Engineers are an interesting idea for their own scifi story
Not as the unspeaking cyphers we've seen so far.

>>213553815
fpbp

>>213562144
Post 426 peer-reviewed studies as proof.

>>213561432
She didn’t quit, they filmed scenes with her. Ridley quite famously had to fight to include any of the arrival sequence in the finished film because Fox wanted Prometheus stuff minimised as much as possible, and some but not all of the footage was released as a short before the release of Covenant

>>213555555
>look on my digits ye mighty and despair

>>213562484
kek

>>213556315
>>213556624
The bigger issue with Prometheus and Convenant isn't even the characters being retarded, it was spoiling the mystery and not taking full advantage of the premise

The Engineers base in Prometheus should have a way more uncanny Giger look instead of it just a generic underground base with a big sculpted head in it and in Convenant they should've made better use of the planet's nature being infected by the black goo

>>213562639
I agree with all that -- they could've made much more out of those films, but what we did get was still decent, especially Prometheus, which looks like a masterpiece compared to the slop studios have been making since 2015ish.

>>213555641
Now that I know black goo is involved my expectations have plummeted.

>>213555136
Damn, Will Ferrell looks weird nowadays.

>>213556642
Don't forget StarCraft. I always played it like I was in the Alien universe.

>>213556642
>Halo lifted a bunch of design elements from Alien, Aliens, and The Thing.
never thought about that before, but you're right. I played the shit out of Halo back in the day. God what fun.