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7/1/2025, 12:19:23 PM
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>Resurrections, and status quo regressions were things that had been happening long before
This. Wizard magazine did a Death of Superman article in the 90s for the Death of Superman event listing all the times Superman had "died" in comics before. And it was a bunch.
>And why the hell are so many X-fags who insist X-Factor ruined X-books, ruined Marvel and ruined comics all somehow still around and still active in fandom decades later instead of just quitting and finding something they actually enjoy?
I like X-Men and Claremont's run. And X-Factor is definitely a point where the spin offs and event proliferation became too much that is what people latch on to. People like X-Men because there were so many good characters you could latch on to at least one with soap opera drama and big storylines.
I think people dislike it for the same reasons we have fights today, X-Factor was kind of led by a type of nostalgia. Some people had nostalgia for the original 5 X-Men even though that book was cancelled for low sales and felt the reboot X-Men (from Cockrum and Wein's Giant Size book) were "not muh X-Men". So it is a generational dispute as much as anything.
And that quagmire represents the event driven, gimmicky comics problem which led comics to their peak and arguably contributed to their crash (many other factors are involved).
(More generally speaking, people just repeat the same narratives over and over again, I don't think it is a case of people just bitching and not being able to quit, more than people's knowledge is limited so they tell the same stories, the same way.)
>Resurrections, and status quo regressions were things that had been happening long before
This. Wizard magazine did a Death of Superman article in the 90s for the Death of Superman event listing all the times Superman had "died" in comics before. And it was a bunch.
>And why the hell are so many X-fags who insist X-Factor ruined X-books, ruined Marvel and ruined comics all somehow still around and still active in fandom decades later instead of just quitting and finding something they actually enjoy?
I like X-Men and Claremont's run. And X-Factor is definitely a point where the spin offs and event proliferation became too much that is what people latch on to. People like X-Men because there were so many good characters you could latch on to at least one with soap opera drama and big storylines.
I think people dislike it for the same reasons we have fights today, X-Factor was kind of led by a type of nostalgia. Some people had nostalgia for the original 5 X-Men even though that book was cancelled for low sales and felt the reboot X-Men (from Cockrum and Wein's Giant Size book) were "not muh X-Men". So it is a generational dispute as much as anything.
And that quagmire represents the event driven, gimmicky comics problem which led comics to their peak and arguably contributed to their crash (many other factors are involved).
(More generally speaking, people just repeat the same narratives over and over again, I don't think it is a case of people just bitching and not being able to quit, more than people's knowledge is limited so they tell the same stories, the same way.)
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