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6/28/2025, 10:08:40 AM
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>European countries were largely homogenous, America was not, and would be come increasingly less so as the 20th century wore on.
I don't find this very convincing because 20th century Europe was full of ethnic bloodshed, pogroms, and expulsions. I mean just look at Yugoslavia where the communists won. There were heads on pikes, people getting thrown off mountain cliffs. The violent, ethnic and nationalistic animosities between people there makes America look relatively tolerant by comparison.
Issues of language, accent, and class-inflected accents and dialects has been a whole thing in Europe. In the Russian Empire, minority languages could be banned from the public square (like publishing). Spain has had Basque seperatists. A closer analogy might be to the modern-day Middle East which still has armed radically left-wing revolutionary organizations that also exist in an environment of really hardcore racism and sectarianism:
https://youtu.be/bVa-lr-wJyI
The main thing is that the U.S. overall has been quite stable. There's this idea (common among white nationalists or those sympathetic to it) that America's racial divisions are a source of instability and that left-wing socialism isn't possible because it requires a certain degree of homogeneity. But it could be that this isn't the case, and America is actually pretty stable and that's why people don't go for radical alternatives. The U.S. had an uninterrupted constitutional order with one big exception in the 1860s. We're more like Britain in that regard.
>European countries were largely homogenous, America was not, and would be come increasingly less so as the 20th century wore on.
I don't find this very convincing because 20th century Europe was full of ethnic bloodshed, pogroms, and expulsions. I mean just look at Yugoslavia where the communists won. There were heads on pikes, people getting thrown off mountain cliffs. The violent, ethnic and nationalistic animosities between people there makes America look relatively tolerant by comparison.
Issues of language, accent, and class-inflected accents and dialects has been a whole thing in Europe. In the Russian Empire, minority languages could be banned from the public square (like publishing). Spain has had Basque seperatists. A closer analogy might be to the modern-day Middle East which still has armed radically left-wing revolutionary organizations that also exist in an environment of really hardcore racism and sectarianism:
https://youtu.be/bVa-lr-wJyI
The main thing is that the U.S. overall has been quite stable. There's this idea (common among white nationalists or those sympathetic to it) that America's racial divisions are a source of instability and that left-wing socialism isn't possible because it requires a certain degree of homogeneity. But it could be that this isn't the case, and America is actually pretty stable and that's why people don't go for radical alternatives. The U.S. had an uninterrupted constitutional order with one big exception in the 1860s. We're more like Britain in that regard.
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