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>We're not really talking about comparing people in cars vs. people in golf carts, so it's not good to move with that attitude.
Yes actually we are. We're talking about entirely different methods of transport, metaphorically, since they work off different mechanical methods.

Yes you can get to the beach by cycling or hiking or your feet, but no amount of claiming 'me paddling my canoe along the main road is as good at getting there as your car, it just takes longer' is going to get you anything except 'You're being silly, why?'

I know you're going to call it a cop out but here:
https://torchless.substack.com/p/low-opinion-system-matters
Have a blog post that goes in-depth on the argument more than I could without shitting up the thread for 10-12 posts.