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Are we really gonna have this retarded racial argument about Jews every single thread? Judaism and the culture around it is bad, there is no secret ooze in Jewish genes that make them horrible evil masterminds ready to take your foreskin. A Jew like any other human can be cool or a cunt. Right now in the upper echelons of society there definitely is a lot of nepotism, in-group preference and an overrepresentation of Jews within government institutions. That's due to how this culture developed and the specific values that were passed down within this group of people, not due to their race. I think this entire discussion is just mindless and embarrassing. Especially because most of the people hating on Jews here would 100% agree with the talmud if you switched "jew" with "aryan" and "goy" with "non-white".

Either way, we're in a /classical/ thread. Discuss classical music for crying out loud, if you really want to have petty IQ measuring contests: Discuss it somewhere where it's relevant, not in this thread.

Bruckner

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnMpN-mUm8Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU-vU12tP6Q

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>"The hardest thing to do is to do a simple song. It's easier to be in a prog band. Really. Because you're not playing the game of 'memorable,'
This is retarded as memorability in pop music is mainly defined by repetition and extra musical factors like the musician's status, stage presence, media presence and airplay on the radio, not by anything meaningful about the song itself. If Billy Jean was done by a no-name band who remained completely anonymous and just sold their demos to radio stations, the song wouldn't have become memorable. We know the song because of it's association with Michael Jackson, not because the song by itself is anything notable.
> you're playing the game like jazz, of showing off. You don't expect somebody to walk out of a jazz concert humming [sings a jazz horn line with many notes]. You don't expect that."
This is really dependent on the performer? Sure, some jazz musicians like to just noodle lines over chords, but what about jazz musicians who develop the head melody in their improvisations like Bill Evans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNBHiPudVYU

I definitely hum the head melody of Waltz For Debby, and his improvisations with this melody are also plenty memorable. Is this just "showing off" to you? As I hear genuine emotional expression that you wouldn't hear in 90% of pop music.
>"So the hardest thing to do and you have to respect the art of it, if it's a Bruno Mars tune or, you know, whoever, is that hearing it once and the melody — especially the chorus — sticks.
If it's not constant airplay that makes it stick, it's the fact that most choruses are based off of repeating a short musical phrase as much as it sounds good. There is nothing about the melody that makes it memorable that can't be musically explained.
>And the art of that, it just happens.
What hippy ass bullshit is shit? It doesn't "just happen", that is a delusional way to look at it.