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7/16/2025, 9:06:57 PM
>>127063230
>Before ca. 1980 there was NO metal music
This is a blatantly false statement that reeks of historical revisionism. While it's true that it was certainly more uncommon, there are plenty of examples of fully-realized heavy metal by quite a few bands in the decade. Additionally, a lot of heavy metal from 1980-1981 is still VERY congruent with rock, and it's not until roughly 1982 with the first roots of thrash and power metal being planted that metal becomes its own distinct thing separated from rock music.
> it was all some subgenre of rock, mostly hard rock
Heavy metal, at its core is a more intense and riff-driven offshoot of hard rock with much (or all) of the inherent blues and groove of rock stripped away. Naturally, early metal is going to sound more like hard rock because it came directly from that style of music.
>and they barely entered the 70s when they were already an established band and can NOT be heavy metal
One of the first mentions of "heavy metal" as a genre is a 1971 review by the magazine Creem of Sir Lord Baltimore's debut album, which is right when Black Sabbath was in their heyday. And a band existing prior to a genre's creation does not mean they are exempt from being grouped in or playing that style of music later on. Scorpions started all the way back in the early '60s as a garage band, and after a few early albums they shifted to a mix of hard rock and heavy metal from the mid-70s-1984ish. (See also; Judas Priest which is the exact same story, except they were slightly heavier than Scorpions in the '70s)
>Before ca. 1980 there was NO metal music
This is a blatantly false statement that reeks of historical revisionism. While it's true that it was certainly more uncommon, there are plenty of examples of fully-realized heavy metal by quite a few bands in the decade. Additionally, a lot of heavy metal from 1980-1981 is still VERY congruent with rock, and it's not until roughly 1982 with the first roots of thrash and power metal being planted that metal becomes its own distinct thing separated from rock music.
> it was all some subgenre of rock, mostly hard rock
Heavy metal, at its core is a more intense and riff-driven offshoot of hard rock with much (or all) of the inherent blues and groove of rock stripped away. Naturally, early metal is going to sound more like hard rock because it came directly from that style of music.
>and they barely entered the 70s when they were already an established band and can NOT be heavy metal
One of the first mentions of "heavy metal" as a genre is a 1971 review by the magazine Creem of Sir Lord Baltimore's debut album, which is right when Black Sabbath was in their heyday. And a band existing prior to a genre's creation does not mean they are exempt from being grouped in or playing that style of music later on. Scorpions started all the way back in the early '60s as a garage band, and after a few early albums they shifted to a mix of hard rock and heavy metal from the mid-70s-1984ish. (See also; Judas Priest which is the exact same story, except they were slightly heavier than Scorpions in the '70s)
6/29/2025, 2:30:09 AM
>>713937423
Make Penus II
Make Penus II
6/26/2025, 6:43:06 AM
>>713676280
>Movement is more precise in World at the cost of the momentum from Mario 3.
I see where you're coming from but I thought it was more stiff than precise. But I also think SMB3's controls are the best a platformer has ever controlled in history so there's some bias there. :)
>Mario 3's later levels pushed the player more, in a fun way, than those in World.
No argument here, this is one of the main reasons I'm not a huge fan of World. When the game should be testing your mettle it's just about as difficult as World 4 in Mario 3. And the one moment that I thought WAS hard in World (that castle with the skewers) is more bullshit difficulty rather than fair in my opinion.
>Movement is more precise in World at the cost of the momentum from Mario 3.
I see where you're coming from but I thought it was more stiff than precise. But I also think SMB3's controls are the best a platformer has ever controlled in history so there's some bias there. :)
>Mario 3's later levels pushed the player more, in a fun way, than those in World.
No argument here, this is one of the main reasons I'm not a huge fan of World. When the game should be testing your mettle it's just about as difficult as World 4 in Mario 3. And the one moment that I thought WAS hard in World (that castle with the skewers) is more bullshit difficulty rather than fair in my opinion.
6/22/2025, 4:26:48 PM
It's plausible but I need to do some more research.
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