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>I never typed those words
Unless I put those words in quotes, I never said you did you gigantic insecure faggot.

>I very clearly stated striving to improve in something one has decided matters to them is pleasurable. I don't give a shit what anyone else thinks of my hobbies. I do them because I find them fun, not because other people think they're worthwhile.
Then you shouldn't give a shit about this conversation and you would be doing it anyway, but that's not your position, because you're a posturing faggot who's entire identity depends on the digital 1's and 0's portrayed on the television screen.

>I argued against the idea that improvement has to be extrinsically motivated by a higher calling.
Okay, taking a page from your arguing strategy, "I never typed those words".

>I am arguing that it is fun in of itself to strive to improve at something you love. I'm talking about pleasure. Hedonism.
That's not what hedonism means.

>This is my last reply until you start responding to my actual arguments. If you're just going to invent talking points to be ridicule, my being here isn't actually necessary for this conversation to continue.
You've moved the goalposts of the argument from being an armchair psychologist attacking anyone who doesn't find masochism fun, to now saying "Why do you care how someone else finds something fun?" which is what my original argument was in the first place.

If you wanted to backtrack this far we could've just met up and square danced and achieved the same effect.