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6/27/2025, 7:07:37 AM
>>528986797
>>528987117
My thoughts
>Fastwood forestry
Selective cutting heads, take the upgrade now.
Double the wood per log in 1/4 the time is just such a powerful boost to wood production. I could be convinced to go for the internal burner though, because that 50% productivity would also apply to the production of mk2/3/4 trees, and getting mk2/3/4 tree seeds will likely be a real bitch.
>Fish
Not crazy about any of them, maybe wait to select one until we have a better grip on the position of fish in Py's grand design. Sort of leaning slightly towards dosing pumps, power's not going to be a huge problem, and at higher fish egg recipes we get a trickle of several useful fish products just by breeding.
>Moondrops
Copper addition, but do not take the upgrade yet. 10 copper ore to go from 4->8 moondrops in 140->70 seconds is not great right now, but the later recipes are much, much more appealing, and require the same 10 copper ore for much larger yields. I'm also not impressed by free CO2, given how easy it is to make coke, and CO2 out of that. Methane isn't hard to make either, and adding in 1/20 of a lamp per cycle puts me off of the option even more.
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>>528987117
My thoughts
>Fastwood forestry
Selective cutting heads, take the upgrade now.
Double the wood per log in 1/4 the time is just such a powerful boost to wood production. I could be convinced to go for the internal burner though, because that 50% productivity would also apply to the production of mk2/3/4 trees, and getting mk2/3/4 tree seeds will likely be a real bitch.
>Fish
Not crazy about any of them, maybe wait to select one until we have a better grip on the position of fish in Py's grand design. Sort of leaning slightly towards dosing pumps, power's not going to be a huge problem, and at higher fish egg recipes we get a trickle of several useful fish products just by breeding.
>Moondrops
Copper addition, but do not take the upgrade yet. 10 copper ore to go from 4->8 moondrops in 140->70 seconds is not great right now, but the later recipes are much, much more appealing, and require the same 10 copper ore for much larger yields. I'm also not impressed by free CO2, given how easy it is to make coke, and CO2 out of that. Methane isn't hard to make either, and adding in 1/20 of a lamp per cycle puts me off of the option even more.
Image because it's relevant, and to increase visibility for the discussion.
6/13/2025, 7:30:46 AM
>>527243604
>I need hot air
I'd seriously recommend using coke everywhere you can. Fuel for assemblers and furnaces, use it to top off your CO2 production, anything. And only use coke that you make directly with the oven gas recipe. If you're producing coke in the coal distillation process, just feed it back in there for more coal gas and tar. If you do that, you should get enough coke oven gas as a byproduct to mostly cover your needs for hot air.
>>120 hours to unlock trains in train game
>Jesus wept.
Technically I had unlocked them a little while before that, I just didn't have a real need to use them until I had to pull salt in from very far away. That and gearboxes need fish oil, which is really not feasible to get at any kind of scale without fish breeding, on top of locomotives being horrendously expensive otherwise.
>Why?
Because Py is the "I fucking love Factorio, and I hate myself" of mods.
>I need hot air
I'd seriously recommend using coke everywhere you can. Fuel for assemblers and furnaces, use it to top off your CO2 production, anything. And only use coke that you make directly with the oven gas recipe. If you're producing coke in the coal distillation process, just feed it back in there for more coal gas and tar. If you do that, you should get enough coke oven gas as a byproduct to mostly cover your needs for hot air.
>>120 hours to unlock trains in train game
>Jesus wept.
Technically I had unlocked them a little while before that, I just didn't have a real need to use them until I had to pull salt in from very far away. That and gearboxes need fish oil, which is really not feasible to get at any kind of scale without fish breeding, on top of locomotives being horrendously expensive otherwise.
>Why?
Because Py is the "I fucking love Factorio, and I hate myself" of mods.
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