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>doing something as simple as keeping date next to time on XFCE is irritating
All you have to do is put a Clock applet next to the other. How is this difficult or irritating at all???
>media controls are better integrated without needing extra packages
What extra packages? It all works out of the box for me.
>better font rendering
How so?
>resource usage (XFCE has become pretty bloated in recent years)
Because of GTK3+ but it's still better than current KDE and Gnome.
>workspace management and tiling
How is XFCE worse than MATE at this?
>more shit is just packed together
Such as?
>needs less hack-y workarounds to get the setup I want compared to XFCE
This very much sounds like a (You) problem.
>MATE hasn't remained unchanged since 2011 so that's irrelevant.
What the FUCK does this even mean?