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The natural antecedent to creation is creator. You cannot have one without the other. The reason you’re not expounding upon your views, and your argument has degenerated to hollow ad homs, is bc you’re fully aware at this point you haven’t a clue how to rationally describe how anything could come into existence void of a primary mover. The existence of God is not even debatable, it’s literally the only possibility for the material world. The problem with religion is that it attempts to put God in a box, limiting the very idea of God and making unsubstantiated claims which are expected to be blindly believed based upon nothing more than the written doctrine of corruptible men. Those who deny a Creator are equally as moronic as those who attempt to limit The Creator thru religion.