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Anonymous Norway /int/213658830#213660960
8/10/2025, 10:33:45 AM
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>Do you guys think Japanese grammar is logical?
I think there's a ton of illogical things in every language I know so I don't really think about it beyond trying to figure out what it means and memorizing it.

こととて is one of those that just seem illogical to me.
>1 理由を表す。…だから、それだけ。…だけあって。「年をとってからできた子供の—、かわいくてしかたがない」「念を入れた—、よい仕上がりだ」
>2 逆接の条件を表す。…こととはいえ。…だからとはいえ。「いくら初めての—大変失礼致しました」
I don't get why it would have both of these usages, but I will simply just memorize it and repeat exposure until my brain will just pick one of them out of context subconciously.

And が has a ton of uses and for some reason can even be a literary の
I honestly think the best approach is just "Japanese is a highly logical language, except when it isn't" and study what the different things *can* mean and mass immerse to see things in context over and over so one can separate them subconciously. It's okay to interpret correctly, but be unable to explain exactly why as long as you are able to communicate back without misunderstanding. Easier said than done, but language is a matter of many thousands of hours so bits will fall into place here and there over time.

>Note: the imperative form of the verb くれる is not くれろ but くれ for some reason.
I have never thought of this, but when you mention it I can tell its true.
>Interestingly, する verbs combined with one kanji like 愛する are not conjugated like the regular する verbs.
I don't think I've ever noticed this. It also uses 愛せる like the other examples I guess?
>As I study Japanese grammar to give clear explanations to Japanese learners, I feel like Japanese has a lot of grammatical exceptions in many ways and I don't find it logical that much.
I don't know how my languages work, its either right or wrong/unnatural.
>Anyways, sorry for my shitty blog post.
It was illuminating.

>In Japanese textbooks for foreigners
Unrelated but, I kinda wonder what textbooks for Norwegian is in Japanese.