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7/12/2025, 4:23:03 AM
>>715219319
The original and 360 were amazing consoles.
Then they became cancer.
Then they wondered why no one wanted to buy a surveillance box that only allowed them to buy digitally from the Xbox store with no physical discs....
Now they are struggling to fight off people switching to linux and gave up on making hardware cause their Spyware, adware OS is bloated dogshit....
Feel like there is a larger lesson that everyone should have learned from this
The original and 360 were amazing consoles.
Then they became cancer.
Then they wondered why no one wanted to buy a surveillance box that only allowed them to buy digitally from the Xbox store with no physical discs....
Now they are struggling to fight off people switching to linux and gave up on making hardware cause their Spyware, adware OS is bloated dogshit....
Feel like there is a larger lesson that everyone should have learned from this
6/19/2025, 3:45:15 AM
>>713047765
Correct.
>>713047791
>Stop trying to sound smart
>A guy taped a banana to a wall so everything is basically art.
You missed the entire second portion of what I said and your example proves it as I specifically used Dadaism to make that point.
>Treating videogames as art only lowers the quality of videogames and opens the door to grifters releasing shit products for grant money rather than focusing on what the customer wants.
By your standards NOTHING IS ART SO EVERYTHING IS ART.
This isn't true otherwise commodities markets would charge artistic surcharges.
But I will break down further why games aren't art.
>When a painting is made, the painter owns the painting until sold.
>When a movie is made, the studio owns the movie with limitations on what they can do per the director and editor ensuring their vision is what is seen and some reworked slop doesn't get recast and have their name on it listed as their art.
>When a song is made, the artist and the label own the song. Who ever owns the masters owns the song rights, however even if a label screw the artist, the artist does not have to create what they do not wish to.
>when a videogame is made, the company that developed it 100% owns everything and can do whatever they want with it and all art made for the game is sold to the development company for the sake of being showcased in the product and the artist has no say or rights to what happens next. Does not matter what the "vision" someone has, if said artist doesn't make what they are told to make that is grounds for termination.
One of these things is not like the others
Correct.
>>713047791
>Stop trying to sound smart
>A guy taped a banana to a wall so everything is basically art.
You missed the entire second portion of what I said and your example proves it as I specifically used Dadaism to make that point.
>Treating videogames as art only lowers the quality of videogames and opens the door to grifters releasing shit products for grant money rather than focusing on what the customer wants.
By your standards NOTHING IS ART SO EVERYTHING IS ART.
This isn't true otherwise commodities markets would charge artistic surcharges.
But I will break down further why games aren't art.
>When a painting is made, the painter owns the painting until sold.
>When a movie is made, the studio owns the movie with limitations on what they can do per the director and editor ensuring their vision is what is seen and some reworked slop doesn't get recast and have their name on it listed as their art.
>When a song is made, the artist and the label own the song. Who ever owns the masters owns the song rights, however even if a label screw the artist, the artist does not have to create what they do not wish to.
>when a videogame is made, the company that developed it 100% owns everything and can do whatever they want with it and all art made for the game is sold to the development company for the sake of being showcased in the product and the artist has no say or rights to what happens next. Does not matter what the "vision" someone has, if said artist doesn't make what they are told to make that is grounds for termination.
One of these things is not like the others
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