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>>149551043
Yeah, he was an interesting critic when I first started reading his stuff. Also, I think that his cynicism regarding Morrison is kinda... shared especially amongst people his age who actually read comics when they are actually examine that while Morrison's comics
>>149550885
Shit sorry, realised I didn't answer this.
As a guy who has written out the most dogshit Titans and Nightwing proposal, yeah I have to agree. While people always praise Claremont having his finger to the pulse of culture in the 70s to 80s, Wolfman also did too, just a lot less obviously.
With his cast, I've talked Raven to death there is a reason that Changeling/Beast Boy was... as he was at the time, which was the rise of the 80s family sitcom as the bratty "bad kid" which Bart Simpson would eventually parody.
Cyborg's whole question for self-identity and the battle between man and machine came out just as guys like Gibson were writing their first forays into the cyberpunk and there was debate on the effect machines would have on our lives.
Hell, even Wally, badly written as he was for this section, represented a whole generation of kids wondering if they wanted to follow in their parents/mentors steps or do something entirely different. While I could be reading too deep into it, it def reminds me of that whole phenomena that Carlin talked about which is how guys decided it was hip to be square etc.
Even Terra was a reaction to the time which was the blacklash to the women's sexual liberation. You can see that in the character who she turned into a reaction to, which was Kitty Pryde, a character who at the time embodied a lot of the traits of that particular movement.
Not entirely sure what Dick, Starfire and Troy would've been a real reaction to... but yeah.
Hell, even their stories are that. The 80s were a time of conspiracy and intrigue, so their comics were very much based in that, even when jumping around genres.
>>149551051
>>149551043
Yeah, he was an interesting critic when I first started reading his stuff. Also, I think that his cynicism regarding Morrison is kinda... shared especially amongst people his age who actually read comics when they are actually examine that while Morrison's comics
>>149550885
Shit sorry, realised I didn't answer this.
As a guy who has written out the most dogshit Titans and Nightwing proposal, yeah I have to agree. While people always praise Claremont having his finger to the pulse of culture in the 70s to 80s, Wolfman also did too, just a lot less obviously.
With his cast, I've talked Raven to death there is a reason that Changeling/Beast Boy was... as he was at the time, which was the rise of the 80s family sitcom as the bratty "bad kid" which Bart Simpson would eventually parody.
Cyborg's whole question for self-identity and the battle between man and machine came out just as guys like Gibson were writing their first forays into the cyberpunk and there was debate on the effect machines would have on our lives.
Hell, even Wally, badly written as he was for this section, represented a whole generation of kids wondering if they wanted to follow in their parents/mentors steps or do something entirely different. While I could be reading too deep into it, it def reminds me of that whole phenomena that Carlin talked about which is how guys decided it was hip to be square etc.
Even Terra was a reaction to the time which was the blacklash to the women's sexual liberation. You can see that in the character who she turned into a reaction to, which was Kitty Pryde, a character who at the time embodied a lot of the traits of that particular movement.
Not entirely sure what Dick, Starfire and Troy would've been a real reaction to... but yeah.
Hell, even their stories are that. The 80s were a time of conspiracy and intrigue, so their comics were very much based in that, even when jumping around genres.
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