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6/23/2025, 11:04:43 PM
>>713463560
Your "freedoms" are as valuable as any other idea that I could write on a napkin. Ideas mean nothing without people to implement and enforce them. If your government gets overthrown and replaced tomorrow, where are your freedoms? Can you point to them, measure them? No, they cease to exist because the people who thought them up and wrote them down don't exist in the seat of power any more. Libertarians just consistently demonstrate that they have no conception of this fundamental concept. If I were interested in implementing and maintaining a state, I'd make sure that its people had a vested interest in preserving and supporting it (or at least had no form of recourse to oppose it, if feasible) because otherwise the resulting discontent will ruin society and all but ensure that said government will be overthrown. But no, keep chanting about the NAP, I'm sure that will get people back on your side.
>>713464513
Others disagree and say that grooming is an exercise of freedom of speech and that the internet should not be regulated in such a way as to protect vulnerable populations. That's the argument at hand: freedom or protection?
>>713464747
Non sequitur? I don't really understand your point. When did I ever endorse child slave labor, just because I own a computer? Great point. And it really isn't the contradiction that you think it is, I kept my argument centered around the nation (root word: "natl" meaning birth/family/tribe), so I wouldn't necessarily be forced into taking a stance against the subjugation of a different family/tribe, since they are not my people. Yours really isn't a genuine argument though, you're just trying to use debate bro tactics for your internet points rather than trying to arrive at the truth of the matter. Perfect example of how the internet can be destructive/counterproductive to a healthy citizenry and therefore some people might seek to regulate aspects of it to prevent this.
Your "freedoms" are as valuable as any other idea that I could write on a napkin. Ideas mean nothing without people to implement and enforce them. If your government gets overthrown and replaced tomorrow, where are your freedoms? Can you point to them, measure them? No, they cease to exist because the people who thought them up and wrote them down don't exist in the seat of power any more. Libertarians just consistently demonstrate that they have no conception of this fundamental concept. If I were interested in implementing and maintaining a state, I'd make sure that its people had a vested interest in preserving and supporting it (or at least had no form of recourse to oppose it, if feasible) because otherwise the resulting discontent will ruin society and all but ensure that said government will be overthrown. But no, keep chanting about the NAP, I'm sure that will get people back on your side.
>>713464513
Others disagree and say that grooming is an exercise of freedom of speech and that the internet should not be regulated in such a way as to protect vulnerable populations. That's the argument at hand: freedom or protection?
>>713464747
Non sequitur? I don't really understand your point. When did I ever endorse child slave labor, just because I own a computer? Great point. And it really isn't the contradiction that you think it is, I kept my argument centered around the nation (root word: "natl" meaning birth/family/tribe), so I wouldn't necessarily be forced into taking a stance against the subjugation of a different family/tribe, since they are not my people. Yours really isn't a genuine argument though, you're just trying to use debate bro tactics for your internet points rather than trying to arrive at the truth of the matter. Perfect example of how the internet can be destructive/counterproductive to a healthy citizenry and therefore some people might seek to regulate aspects of it to prevent this.
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