>>508873600
>you are denying evidence
Im not denying evidence. What im saying is that the "evidence" is grossly misinterpreted to prove a point. What im saying is that the "evidence" isn't evidence and that the theory put forward that it is evidence is in itself just a pathological fallacy.

>>508873629
Old people dying and populations shinking doesn't cause population collapse.

The only thing the rat utopia proved is that if you fuck your kids enough times their genetics will become so inbred that they well no longer be fertile.