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Strictly speaking, we don't really know; but probably not.
If you could afford the nicest armour you'd wear it in battle. Obviously, if you had to swim you'd take it off first and just have to deal with that, but if you somehow managed to find yourself overboard you'd just have to hope to undo your straps as quickly as possible before you drowned.linothorax, if we are assuming it to be a quilted gambeson sort of thing, wouldn't have been especially easy to swim in either.
All that said, there is a pretty massive distance of time between 'linothorax' and this armour-- although you had bronze breastplates, greaves and helmets well into classic Greek ages along with hopilites, the Myceanean Bronze Ages, the era from which Greek bronze bell armour, predates that whole mode of warfare by quite a bit of time-- a whole civilization collapse happened between the time of bell armour and the classical hopiltes, so these things were not contemporary.
We have virtually no Greek narrative accounts from the era of the bell armour-- the great majority of written works we have what are basically warehouse lists and spreadsheets, so we know very little about how they actually conducted warfare and naval battles, so can't say "no they didn't use a lighter armour" for sure
Additionally, although they list a number of military goods including a variety of bronze armour types in those lists, linothorax was a word unknown to them-- Homer, who although describes the Myceanean period was writing about it 400 years later, after the Bronze age collapse, doesn't use the word either, the closest thing to it he mentions is calling Diomedes "linen-breasted" which could just mean he was wearing a linen tunic, and the first actual mention of linothorax comes from the 6th century BC iirc-- three hundred years after Homer, and seven after the time of the bronze bell armour.
pic related, a depiction of light armour contemporary to the time the bronze bell armour
Strictly speaking, we don't really know; but probably not.
If you could afford the nicest armour you'd wear it in battle. Obviously, if you had to swim you'd take it off first and just have to deal with that, but if you somehow managed to find yourself overboard you'd just have to hope to undo your straps as quickly as possible before you drowned.linothorax, if we are assuming it to be a quilted gambeson sort of thing, wouldn't have been especially easy to swim in either.
All that said, there is a pretty massive distance of time between 'linothorax' and this armour-- although you had bronze breastplates, greaves and helmets well into classic Greek ages along with hopilites, the Myceanean Bronze Ages, the era from which Greek bronze bell armour, predates that whole mode of warfare by quite a bit of time-- a whole civilization collapse happened between the time of bell armour and the classical hopiltes, so these things were not contemporary.
We have virtually no Greek narrative accounts from the era of the bell armour-- the great majority of written works we have what are basically warehouse lists and spreadsheets, so we know very little about how they actually conducted warfare and naval battles, so can't say "no they didn't use a lighter armour" for sure
Additionally, although they list a number of military goods including a variety of bronze armour types in those lists, linothorax was a word unknown to them-- Homer, who although describes the Myceanean period was writing about it 400 years later, after the Bronze age collapse, doesn't use the word either, the closest thing to it he mentions is calling Diomedes "linen-breasted" which could just mean he was wearing a linen tunic, and the first actual mention of linothorax comes from the 6th century BC iirc-- three hundred years after Homer, and seven after the time of the bronze bell armour.
pic related, a depiction of light armour contemporary to the time the bronze bell armour
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