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7/2/2025, 10:06:03 PM
>>714304808
Ah man, I didn't have this context, but it makes so much more sense now why Notch said those things.
I don't want psychoanalyze too much, but I think the reason Rust is so popular with people who are hyper progressive is because it's so strict about everything and doing things the 'right' way.
For historical context: C was the language that, compared to other languages being developed at the time, did not give a shit. There's a famous conversation between an academic Lisp programmer and a C Dev talking about error handling and the Lisp programmer discusses how hard it is to restore the program to the correct state, while the C programmer just shrugs and says they let the program crash.
Modern day low-level developers now care very deeply about correctness, because exploits are so much easier to find and the cost is so much higher, but that same pedantic attitude gets applied to EVERYTHING.
Because you have to pass all the purity tests or you're with the enemy, you're either unsafe or safe. This, versus the duct tape programmers like Notch who run into an edge case with encoding player position and just makes a dirty hack for it instead of re-architecting everything.
It's a deeply philosophical battle.
>>714305565
Honestly, it makes sense:
First Clojure was made by an irate Java developer because he hated writing Java.
Then it was used by irate JavaScript developers because they hated writing Javascript.
THEN it was used by irate bash programmers because they hated writing Shell.
The history of Clojure is being a lisp for people who are tired writing in other languages.
BlamScript in Halo: CE is a precedent for lisp-style scripting in game engines.
Clojure in game dev is just a matter of time.
Ah man, I didn't have this context, but it makes so much more sense now why Notch said those things.
I don't want psychoanalyze too much, but I think the reason Rust is so popular with people who are hyper progressive is because it's so strict about everything and doing things the 'right' way.
For historical context: C was the language that, compared to other languages being developed at the time, did not give a shit. There's a famous conversation between an academic Lisp programmer and a C Dev talking about error handling and the Lisp programmer discusses how hard it is to restore the program to the correct state, while the C programmer just shrugs and says they let the program crash.
Modern day low-level developers now care very deeply about correctness, because exploits are so much easier to find and the cost is so much higher, but that same pedantic attitude gets applied to EVERYTHING.
Because you have to pass all the purity tests or you're with the enemy, you're either unsafe or safe. This, versus the duct tape programmers like Notch who run into an edge case with encoding player position and just makes a dirty hack for it instead of re-architecting everything.
It's a deeply philosophical battle.
>>714305565
Honestly, it makes sense:
First Clojure was made by an irate Java developer because he hated writing Java.
Then it was used by irate JavaScript developers because they hated writing Javascript.
THEN it was used by irate bash programmers because they hated writing Shell.
The history of Clojure is being a lisp for people who are tired writing in other languages.
BlamScript in Halo: CE is a precedent for lisp-style scripting in game engines.
Clojure in game dev is just a matter of time.
6/24/2025, 9:00:59 PM
>>713543571
>Now your initiative has failed and you're blaming me for 33 minutes of the hour long video
>"I'M GOING TO ACTIVELY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO SUPPORT THIS" - Pirate software
Wow.
>Your community is out in force shitting up our streams and socials with hate messages, threats, and snide comments
Receipts. Show me where Ross supported any of this and the police reports you filed for threats.
Also 'hate messages' and 'snide comments', seriously?
>Since you're so set on cutting up my responses into pieces to try and make seem unhinged
So you don't disagree with them being accurate representations of your arguments, but you don't like the fact that they make you look like an irate teenager?
>The only engagement I've seen that is level headed has been from Louis Rossman
That's a lie, he said Asmongold's take was level headed as well
>But to be real dude every time you've been involved your orbiters turn shit toxic instantly and its sets me off
>"I'm upset because people call me out and can't handle criticism, despite being a streamer, and it's your 'orbiter's fault!"
Meanwhile Ross has never once encouraged this kind of behavior. Meanwhile Pirate Software is behaving like a spoiled ranting teenager
>Why do you think I haven't talked about this shit in 10 monthes
Because Ross decided not to farm the drama and leave you alone.
>Why do you think we auto-mute anyone bringing it up in chat
Because you have no spine and it gets under your skin, so people heckle you over it.
>It's been rage-bait and shit flinging the entire time
And you've NEVER rage-baited or flung shit in your thumbnails and responses.
>You own Reddit had people openly talking about causing drama in our community
Show receipts.
>Now your initiative has failed and you're blaming me for 33 minutes of the hour long video
>"I'M GOING TO ACTIVELY ENCOURAGE PEOPLE NOT TO SUPPORT THIS" - Pirate software
Wow.
>Your community is out in force shitting up our streams and socials with hate messages, threats, and snide comments
Receipts. Show me where Ross supported any of this and the police reports you filed for threats.
Also 'hate messages' and 'snide comments', seriously?
>Since you're so set on cutting up my responses into pieces to try and make seem unhinged
So you don't disagree with them being accurate representations of your arguments, but you don't like the fact that they make you look like an irate teenager?
>The only engagement I've seen that is level headed has been from Louis Rossman
That's a lie, he said Asmongold's take was level headed as well
>But to be real dude every time you've been involved your orbiters turn shit toxic instantly and its sets me off
>"I'm upset because people call me out and can't handle criticism, despite being a streamer, and it's your 'orbiter's fault!"
Meanwhile Ross has never once encouraged this kind of behavior. Meanwhile Pirate Software is behaving like a spoiled ranting teenager
>Why do you think I haven't talked about this shit in 10 monthes
Because Ross decided not to farm the drama and leave you alone.
>Why do you think we auto-mute anyone bringing it up in chat
Because you have no spine and it gets under your skin, so people heckle you over it.
>It's been rage-bait and shit flinging the entire time
And you've NEVER rage-baited or flung shit in your thumbnails and responses.
>You own Reddit had people openly talking about causing drama in our community
Show receipts.
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