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>if they're suffering with obv dysphoria and coping with dodgy phytoestrogens as a long term strategy or certain "fitness guides", like yeah ok they should be on e.

I mean, you kinda answered your own question. I understand whe somebody is okay living with their gender but we've actually seen in real time a whole generation of fems get screwed over because of that one "femboy fitness" pic. I was there and most people who gassed it up said very similar things to what people in this thread say.
>I don't want tits
>hrt is dangerous
>I'll used herbs or (insert experimental drug/dangerous antiandrogen stack) instead
I will agree that you might look weird but that does depend on if you wereugly to begin with. Plenty of guys have gyno but breast are very noticeable on a dude. You do tend to learn to love them eventually.

Overall, while I do agree that jrt isn't for everybody, most of the reasons I've heard in these threads comes off as cope and/or lack of understanding which is exactly what we've seen before. Nobody is grooming anybody. It's just that we're watching history repeat itself.