There’s a massive cognitive dissonance between vtm tabletop players, the people who read the novels, and those who just play the video games. I have been reading the book of nod, and it just slaps so hard. Then i go to the tabletop community to discuss the nature of Caine, only to see very gay posts like pic related, gay and trans fanfiction, and slutty pictures (yes, in lingerie) of some landwhale doing a cosplay of Velvet for the 3498 time. In the best case, you will read about some dude who played as a poc thinblood with vitiligo who blew up a Ventrue tower in LA or something like that. It’s all so tiresome.