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7/24/2025, 2:44:06 PM
>>532497651
>>532498069
>It was very clear from Saiyan arc onwards this is an alien series now
And yet Krillin played a crucial part in both Saiyan and Namek arcs.
>i-it would have been good if they didn't show up at all!!
Retarded opinion. You're just asserting over and over "powerlevels would dictate that so they shouldn't even show their faces or have any dialogue" like 1) fighting is the only thing that matters and 2) powerlevels as you perceive them the way they were written in this arc are absolute and cannot be written any other way.
It would have been perfectly possible to make everyone competitive enough to get some hits in and achieve some stuff. Even if Toriyama didn't do that I'm glad he let them appear, talk, show their faces and do what they had to do even if they didn't advance the heroes goals. Hell, it's not like anyone achieved anything of value, even Trunks jobbed this entire arc.
The point is that this stupid "Humans should have been taken out of the world and it's just like that, trust me bro" dogma is ridiculous, the story could have been written in many ways. It's not a HUGE issue that the humans didn't do anything in this arc (although it's still an issue imo), it's an issue that nobody other than Goku and Gohan did jackshit because the entire arc was centered around beating X and Y, so you can't really have "smaller wins" for the heroes, it's either "you beat the final boss" or "you lost".
>>532498069
>It was very clear from Saiyan arc onwards this is an alien series now
And yet Krillin played a crucial part in both Saiyan and Namek arcs.
>i-it would have been good if they didn't show up at all!!
Retarded opinion. You're just asserting over and over "powerlevels would dictate that so they shouldn't even show their faces or have any dialogue" like 1) fighting is the only thing that matters and 2) powerlevels as you perceive them the way they were written in this arc are absolute and cannot be written any other way.
It would have been perfectly possible to make everyone competitive enough to get some hits in and achieve some stuff. Even if Toriyama didn't do that I'm glad he let them appear, talk, show their faces and do what they had to do even if they didn't advance the heroes goals. Hell, it's not like anyone achieved anything of value, even Trunks jobbed this entire arc.
The point is that this stupid "Humans should have been taken out of the world and it's just like that, trust me bro" dogma is ridiculous, the story could have been written in many ways. It's not a HUGE issue that the humans didn't do anything in this arc (although it's still an issue imo), it's an issue that nobody other than Goku and Gohan did jackshit because the entire arc was centered around beating X and Y, so you can't really have "smaller wins" for the heroes, it's either "you beat the final boss" or "you lost".
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