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6/18/2025, 11:09:11 PM
>>81534800
>The thing he raved about is that chaos is chaotic
Not a rebuttal.
>and by your definition, you're pampered now.
You handle it like an insult, I handle it like a state of being where any agency is had as it can be directed towards outcomes such as skill issues or skill solutions.
>>81535038
>You're the one playing the power games.
I'll do that as hard as needed as long as it expresses what I'd like to convey.
>people haven't suffered
They honestly just never do. By the time they may possibly suffer for real, in such moments, they can neither ever formally confirm the experience nor they can ever hold onto their mental or physical humanity for an observer to say "yes, that is a person in suffering." The assertions that such and such suffering is real only ever come as raw projections of the raw mind. A token of social evolutionary thriving; a pointer isn't its own target; slicing a round balloon up as if it's a pie, et cetera. It's all infinitely more simple than I describe.
>But that is NOT the essence of Jung's work
Yeah, it's not the forest, just the trees.
>self aggrandizing ego inflation masking itself as self righteous enlightenment
Solid 50% of Jung's works.
>>81535417
Experienced phenomenology relies on opposites. You ever get the wholeness of experience (max pain is below <100% and you comprehend it by the rest being non-pain. However, you ever experience the whole, not its parts, no matter how much your ego tries to quantify), or nothing (if 100% pain, then its inexperiencable. Much like you can feel yourself dying, but you can't feel the death). "Consciousness rises from a friction of opposites" is a certified Jung hood classic.
There are just too many explanations of the simple reality here. I'm not sure what's so complicated on eternally occuring transmogrificative adaptations.
>The thing he raved about is that chaos is chaotic
Not a rebuttal.
>and by your definition, you're pampered now.
You handle it like an insult, I handle it like a state of being where any agency is had as it can be directed towards outcomes such as skill issues or skill solutions.
>>81535038
>You're the one playing the power games.
I'll do that as hard as needed as long as it expresses what I'd like to convey.
>people haven't suffered
They honestly just never do. By the time they may possibly suffer for real, in such moments, they can neither ever formally confirm the experience nor they can ever hold onto their mental or physical humanity for an observer to say "yes, that is a person in suffering." The assertions that such and such suffering is real only ever come as raw projections of the raw mind. A token of social evolutionary thriving; a pointer isn't its own target; slicing a round balloon up as if it's a pie, et cetera. It's all infinitely more simple than I describe.
>But that is NOT the essence of Jung's work
Yeah, it's not the forest, just the trees.
>self aggrandizing ego inflation masking itself as self righteous enlightenment
Solid 50% of Jung's works.
>>81535417
Experienced phenomenology relies on opposites. You ever get the wholeness of experience (max pain is below <100% and you comprehend it by the rest being non-pain. However, you ever experience the whole, not its parts, no matter how much your ego tries to quantify), or nothing (if 100% pain, then its inexperiencable. Much like you can feel yourself dying, but you can't feel the death). "Consciousness rises from a friction of opposites" is a certified Jung hood classic.
There are just too many explanations of the simple reality here. I'm not sure what's so complicated on eternally occuring transmogrificative adaptations.
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