>>509233968
Ya no shit Sherlock, it's almost as if the same group of people used to call themselves atheists, or anarchists, or malthusians, or popularius, or whatever else is topical to excuse bad behavior and being a little shit. There will always be a counter culture, not to rebel against the state but to rebel against familism. Also those people who join these cults against order and never grow out of them become dangerous, and should not be allowed to live. Otherwise they do stupid shit like kill an arch duke or join a bunch of Jews in over throwing their government for an ice pick award.