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Anonymous ID: G1kpadksBrazil /pol/509844598#509870573
7/9/2025, 12:29:05 AM
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From the knowledge the Greek Romans gracefully brought with them to Italy to lift Europe out of its miserable state. Europe was the most backwards part of the world at that time. Rest of the world was flourishing.

It wasn’t until the fall of Constantinople that the West Europe became the center of Christendom. During the fall, many Eastern scholars, mystics, and occultists made their way west and brought with them things that had been lost to west europeans for 1000 years including philosophy, theology, and many forgotten heresies. Because the west europeans had lost their ancient traditions they were susceptible to tem (you still see this trend playing out with modern Western obsession with Hinduism, Buddhism, etc...). None of these heresies and mysticisms are new to the Orthodox Church. They’ve been well aware of Phariseeism, Manicheanism, and Gnosticism since 3rd century. They’ve had ongoing dialogue with Pharisaic Jews and rabbinic traditions.

Greco-Roman Antiquity is an immense source of inspiration for anyone who wants to think about politics and society without having to make reference to Christianity. This is visible already in the Renaissance, since it was important for a lot of city-states and principalities to have some authority while the pope and his army lived at their gates, not to mention the Austrian invasions to the north. They "rediscovered" the ancients at that time, like Aristotle and Cicero, for example, and this became a source for talking about politics without having to talk about God. It is in this context that you can find some works by Dante and Marsilius of Padua, for example. Although the group still wanted to be moral and correct, the rupture only happened with Machiavelli, who even threw away the wisdom of the ancients as well.