>>17988766
>>17988121
The whole point of marxism is to reconcile the individual with collective society. I used to be a libertarian too until I realize that there are fundamental limits to consent, given that consequences made by private individuals in their pursuit of their objectives impact others too. Once you realize that, you realize that norms (like laws and regulations) need to be created so that individuals agree to not unconsesusally impact each other (or to the extent that they agree to) by agreeing on certain principles. Once you've got this foot in the door, you quickly realize that the only arguments for other systems than marxism boil down to religious dogma, pragmatism (liberals) and immature ideologies (lolberts).
Ironically enough, the libertarian movement is very slowly coming to terms with this and would fits largely in the last category. Stuff like the NAP, paternalism (Nudge by Thaler), or that text that rothbard (iirc) made about nukes being "illogical" in a lolbert world should be enough to show the limits of ancap/libertarians.
>natural order works best
The notion of something working better than something else presupposes objectives synonymous with good. In the case of libertarianism, it's both not the best system to create wealth given that mixxed economies perform better and not the best system for consent since it allows for individuals to impede others the most.
Overall, libertarianism is to marxism what kant is to hegel. Kant gave us an idealist philosophy that systemized the modern notion of the individual as foundational to any philosophy. Hegel brought back that subjectivity in line with objective reality, in a sense reconciling the subjective with the objective without denying the former's agency.
Marxism is similar to that logic to libertarianism in that it realizes that the individual can't be taken for isolated and exalts his individualism through the state by stripping him of his alienation.
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>>24662617
>what's your philosophy
empiricist because we're limited to our sensible reality
egoist because man lives for himself fundamentally
rousseauist because there is an idea of a nation by which man lives through, and because a majority in said-nation can form a collective interest and will
socialist because capitalism in its current form is irrational on a collectice level
essentially, randian objectivism with the realisation that socialism isn't "irrational" to an egoist individual, which translates politically into the chinese model but with more democracy.
>>24663003
>>24662958
the whole point of the road problem is to illustrate that certain goods are better handled by the government as a proxy for collective will than private companies.
>>24664301
>because the state sustains the service via taxing so it has no incentives to be profitable at all
That's precisely what lolberts don't understand. The state isn't an external entity who comes to collect taxes and who sometimes creates stuff to legitimize itself. The state is the expression of people organized in a manner to make it efficient and potent.
The state has an incentive to be profitable because there is an incentive for the people to recieve good services in exchange of their taxes. There is an incentive for the people to lower the cost, improve the quality etc because it benefits them. The only reason why this isn't evidently the case is because our political system is completely corrupt down to the core and because people have no concept or feeling of belonging to the nation.
>>24664363
what's even left if you remove the christcuck stuff ? Luke smith's gimmick of living in the woods disconnected from politics is because there is a natural preordained way that people can follow which is the reason for him to do so and turn away from politics.
if you remove the christian part then life has no intrinsic meaning, then there is no grounded ethic, then there is no way of life you can follow in semi-isolation
>what's your philosophy
empiricist because we're limited to our sensible reality
egoist because man lives for himself fundamentally
rousseauist because there is an idea of a nation by which man lives through, and because a majority in said-nation can form a collective interest and will
socialist because capitalism in its current form is irrational on a collectice level
essentially, randian objectivism with the realisation that socialism isn't "irrational" to an egoist individual, which translates politically into the chinese model but with more democracy.
>>24663003
>>24662958
the whole point of the road problem is to illustrate that certain goods are better handled by the government as a proxy for collective will than private companies.
>>24664301
>because the state sustains the service via taxing so it has no incentives to be profitable at all
That's precisely what lolberts don't understand. The state isn't an external entity who comes to collect taxes and who sometimes creates stuff to legitimize itself. The state is the expression of people organized in a manner to make it efficient and potent.
The state has an incentive to be profitable because there is an incentive for the people to recieve good services in exchange of their taxes. There is an incentive for the people to lower the cost, improve the quality etc because it benefits them. The only reason why this isn't evidently the case is because our political system is completely corrupt down to the core and because people have no concept or feeling of belonging to the nation.
>>24664363
what's even left if you remove the christcuck stuff ? Luke smith's gimmick of living in the woods disconnected from politics is because there is a natural preordained way that people can follow which is the reason for him to do so and turn away from politics.
if you remove the christian part then life has no intrinsic meaning, then there is no grounded ethic, then there is no way of life you can follow in semi-isolation
>>510868402
disregarding the republic and going straight to the empire as THE representation of the Romans exposes you as a fed desu
disregarding the republic and going straight to the empire as THE representation of the Romans exposes you as a fed desu
