>>719955458
To be fair with what they could do at the time, they still managed to make fairly memorable characters and stories that are enjoyable enough to go through.
But this franchise also made a huge impression on a lot of us growing up, so there's a lot emotional ties there. Problem with discussing FF is not only that but also everyone has their own vision of what FF needs to be. Usually shaped by whichever game introduced them to the franchise, even though its identity has consistently been a moving target. It's why some games feel like a "betrayal" despite them not even being bad games. It's made it a messy franchise to discuss in a genuine way and why hanging around in the "comfy" threads is really the only worthwhile thing for them here. There is barely any point to the debates because there is never a real consensus to reach about it, people aren't that open to hearing about anyone's likes or dislikes about a game especially when they have made up their mind about it ages ago.