>>64167316
>why do caniks have a bad rep?
Mostly because they don't work well. At least you can get a brand new g3c for $180 online, and it will work reliably. This was one of 4 malfunctions I had in just 10 rounds with this canik.
>it would be silly to buy a g19 size then buy a carry or full size
Why? They fill different rolls and are each good for different things. It is much sillier to buy a tiny pistol as your first pistol as handguns are very difficult to learn to shoot compared to shotguns or rifles. Trust me, I bought a tiny S&W shield as my first handgun. Learn from my mistakes don't repeat them.