>>545293067
>according to you any gam in a real time environment with combat is an action game apparently
Yes. Especially those that have mandatory combat segments which all SH games do and all REs and AitDs.
>making the term meaningless
It's not meaningless at all when this is how it's always been defined. Before "survival horror" caught on people referred to them as action adventures because that's what they are.
>it's BONUS feature
Yes that is what unlockables are generally considered. If you want to get that unlockable then you need to play the game a certain way ergo you're not playing the game wrong by engaging in combat. Not sure why this seemingly goes over your head.
>it is and they do
No, you just mistakenly believe "action" is defined by the amount of setpieces like in a movie and that simplistic combat means it's not action hence your comparisons to DMC and MGR because you're unsurprisingly probably also the type that thinks "character action" is a real genre like most /v/tards who uses action as a shorthand almost exclusively for DMClikes. An action game is any game with real time combat that relies more so on the player's hand-eye coordination and reflexes rather than tactical thinking. If it was truly about the things you think it's about we would not differentiate ARPGs from RPGs. Video game genres have always been defined by their mechanics and "action" is an incredibly broad genre with various different sub-genres because of it. These games are full of action mechanics and they clearly have a focus on them. There is no world where swinging your steel pipe against an enemy and blocking their attacks with your weapon is a unique mechanic only found in a survival horror. How do you not understand something so basic.
>the player doesn't know that in advance
Only if you're an idiot. You gain your first melee weapon very early on and it's a completely viable alternative to using your guns which you already get plenty of ammo for very early on too.

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>>717405842
>The point is that Silent Hill is supposed to be a horror game, not an action combat game.
Or you can just accept that both things can be true at once instead of being a purist. If you want Amnesia style games then Silent Hill was never for you with the exception of Shattered Memories.