why do they keep pander to youngshits when the older people have fatter wallet, know better and more willing to pay?

>>717396465 (OP)
Like, look at this shit.

>you now get to listen to the people who bought millions of rollslop games complain about rollslop and act like they're above it

Theres absolutely nothing wrong with making something more combat focused but only if the combat is actually good and not this fucking garbage >>717396537

>/v/irgins became what they've hated all along; game journos
I am laughing so much about this, you have no idea, how many of you niggers were whining about 'souls fatigue' and turns out you're sharing the same feelings that fucking JOURNOS do, holy fuck the irony

I don't care about brands or studios, if game is good and it's interesting to me, I'll play it, get on my level nigger

>>717396465 (OP)
>fighting back in a Silent Hill game
Not horror.

>>717396537
Hahahahahahahahaha wtf it's going on here? This looks like shit period

>resource management is le good
>stamina management is le bad
SH2 Remake already had that kind of combat with dodging, except without stamina

No one older than 25 plays video games

>>717396537
wtf is this dogshit collision? she doesn't touch the monster at all. 2025 game, lmaooo

>>717396843
Shiteater

>>717396465 (OP)
it's almost impressive how much konami fucks up silent hill at every single turn. it's as though for every brand new game their first step is to gather all fan feedback and requests to make sure they don't accidentally include any of it and then they brainstorm new ways to utterly fuck the franchise be it a dungeon crawler style handheld entry, some internet interactive movie/game with a battlepass, or completely removing the game from the heavily american settings it's known for to replace them with japan and a focus on combat.

>>717396537

>>717396537
why is the hitstop 80 years long

>its called a soulslike because you can attack and dodge
im so tired of this fucking shit bro

>>717397471
That's just the ue5 stutters right?

>>717396465 (OP)
Everyone likes that. There was a just a brief period where ultra easy faggot games were popular.

I had 'soulslike' fatigue without even finishing Dark Souls

Sorry bros but Silent hill 2 combat is ASS, fucking zoomers I swear

>You are young and stupid
>buy our game
yes master!

>konami listened to the American devs who thought SH was about combat and not atmospheric horror
Sad! Nobody can do tense creepy games any longer

>>717396465 (OP)
>boomers are going to get filtered by actually difficult combat
kek

That combat just looks like shit no matter the game it has been put in.

>>717397806
>Konami
Silly anon. Konami doesn't make games anymore. They just shill out their ips to random companies to make games for them

>>717397321
>omg your such an incel!!!! racist!!! transphobe!!!
shut the fuck up kotaku, you're irrelevant and you have no future

>>717397782
Lol, the zionists really are rats

>>717396465 (OP)
when did the japanese game dev giants get so out of touch? I know Konami fucked off to mostly make gambling machines for a while, but even SE leadership seems to have no fucking idea what's going on anymore and all Sega has is Yakuza. Nintendo are fine and always will be because their fans are cultists

>>717396537
>>717396465 (OP)
they're 100% correct.
Publishers are taking notice of Elden Ring's success and are trying to copy mechanics from it, both in large ways and small ways.

Modern kids like challenging action games now, because they get to watch their favourite e-celebs struggle with it and then try it themselves.

>>717396465 (OP)
>turn horror series into action series yo pursue the (wider audience)
I'm not saying it won't be good, but fuck off. Let a genre or a series be what it is instead of turning it into Lowest Common Denominator Simulator for fuck's sake
THIS is the diversity they should be focused on!

>>717396465 (OP)
If you are a Silent Hill fan you are used to disappointment given that there hasnt been a good silent hill game in 20 years, one more shitty silent hill game on the pile doesn't change much

this is why chasing trends as a game developer is such a bad fucking idea because by the time you get the game out the door everyones onto the next thing that will die off in 8 months
this game probably started development at the peak of the souls hype cycle and its only just now coming out when people have stopped caring

>>717397534
for once in UE5s history it might not be, i think the game just has hitstun

>>717398364
Soulslikes are literally more popular than ever retard.

>>717396537
ok, I might love souls slop, but that looks like shit

>>717398295
Yeah but it's funny arguing with r07cucks instead of the man who loves silent hill more than me.

>>717396465 (OP)
Typical suit golem behavior, they're out of touch with reality so they blindly try to copy successful thing #1244 without understanding why it was successful in the first place, then they try to slap it into their own entirely different series without understanding why theirs is successful either.

>>717396537
>blood from a doll
uh?

>>717398416
not really. elden ring is already like 3 years old and nightreign died like a month after it released
all of these games that come out that arent actually made by from software all end up being xbox game pass tier slop that only get talked about before they release

>>717396537
>>717397471
Pause for hit collision, wtf

>>717398364
>peak of souls hype
bloodborne came out 10 years ago

>>717396465 (OP)
>make game "soulslike"
>have absolutely no understanding of souls combat outside of "attack, roll, stamina system"
fucking hell with these developers.

>>717398681
>not really.
Every year we get a billion soulslike. Wukong, Stellar Blade, Wuchang, Elden Ring, AC6, Nightreign, Lies of P, etc. All of them sell incredibly well too.

>>717396465 (OP)
>why do they keep pander to youngshits when the older people have fatter wallet, know better and more willing to pay?

>>717396465 (OP)
Because it's easier to trick younger people into having their parents buy them shitty games, like with donkey kong bananza?

>>717399213
This. Meanwhile watch as Ninja Gaiden 4 flops and barely sells 500k copies globally.
People shit on soulslikes and keep saying they have souls fatigue but everyone else doesn't agree.

>>717396537
>>717397471
This is still beta, you fucktards

>>717396465 (OP)
>>717396537
This feels like Silent Hill 2 Remake all over again.
People complained that the combat also look janky in the trailers but then they played it and turns out it felt really good.
I'll hold out my judgement until i play it myself.

>>717396537
Kino.

>>717399213
Khazan and AI Limit were great too. I even saw some big name streamers playing AI Limit.

>>717399376
SH2R enemies actually have stun animations and respond to your attacks

>>717399526
yeah that's my point, even with that. People still shat on the combat in the trailers and previews.

>>717399213
Are those actually soulslike though? Other than ER itself the only game in that list I played is Stellar Blade and that one is not a soulslike in any way, shape or form. I don't even understand what's supposed to be "soulslike" about it, the fact that you have limited heals and that's it?

>>717396465 (OP)
>Fake fans exposing themselves and hyperfocusing on le dark souls-likeness
You niggers really think this is the first time a Silent Hill game tried "fixing" combat?
At least this new one lets you actually fucking see what's happening instead of pic related. It doesn't even look like Dark Souls.

>>717399608
Lies of P and Wuchang are soulslikes yes.
That said, I think the problem with SHf is the camera. It has an over the shoulder camera so instead of being a soulslike it instead plays like an unholy combination of RE4 and nuGoW. Soulslikes always have the camera centered.

>>717399348
I am tired of retards like you who don't know what beta means

This is where I feel they kinda over complicated it. You don't have to fight the enemies. They will not give you EXP or resources. The game does seem to encourage running from combat more compared to the Silent Hill 2 remake. You're meant to get your resources and save those health items you find so you can enshrine them at save points to get currency to increase levels, increase sanity or buy amulets with buffs. Now you've got a level up system where you have to scale the enemy and placement so the character isn't too under-leveled when they get to the next major boss encounter. I feel they could've simplified it easier by just saying it takes this many number of hits to take down an enemy.

>>717397782
you dream of long nosed masters

>>717399608
There's variations but all those game fall under the souls umbrella in some way, shape or form. Stellar Blade is closer to a spectacle fighter, but still has souls DNA with the purposefully sluggish movement limited moveset. It's not like silent hill f or whatever it's called has a dodge roll and everything that's traditionally present in Dark Souls either.

>>717396537
>the fucking stamina bar

>>717396465 (OP)
journos all going on about "soulslike fatigue" all together at once feels like western corpos paying them to create the narrative that souls games are bad after they collectively got bullied for their shitty "UX"

They obviously have sales data that shows only boomers bought silent hill 2 remake. They dont want boomers. They want zoomers.

>>717397235
im 35 and play them. im an incel though.

>>717396465 (OP)
>journos starts using the term souls-fatigue the same time as /v/tards start using it
hmmm
also
>action gameplay means souls-like

>>717396465 (OP)
Since most fans are cucks.
Easy to exploit and will buy the game anyway.
So then it is a quest for the new broad audience. If they hit the gold there will be a lot of money.

>game does souls-action
:D
>game does souls-action but the name is silent hill
:|

The old Silent Hill games were all about combat, too.
They weren't PT. They were foggy Resident Evil, but with probably more combat.

>>717396465 (OP)
Funny thing is if you actually tasked Fromsoft with making a Silent Hill game it would probably NOT be rollslop, they get alot of flak but they actually understand gameplay systems well. You would end up with a game that focuses on atmosphere and puzzle solving with much less combat and I imagine it would be something like RE7 but in 3rd person where you defend and have to carefully aim your shots and melee comes with a huge risk/reward tradeoff.

>>717396537
I actually like the UI. Reminds of FF4, but my issue is that it looks way too clean. Compare SH3. That game was fucking filthy, and fit the horror part.

>>717396537
I would attack it with my flesh pipe, if you know what I mean

>>717396537
That webm is too short to really judge anything, but that hitstun really needs to go. What the fuck were they thinking lmao

>>717400969
Source? Because they made AC6 rollslop as well. They are like platinum where all their games have some sort of ultimate defense/damage mitigation mechanic. In older horror games, or even in RE2 remake, the way not get damaged is to run away from the danger.

>>717396537
How is this worse than the combat in the old games

>>717401260
because the old games were also 20 years ago.

>"fatigue"
When did this new buzzword catch on?

>>717401086
Sekiro. Sekiro is Fromsoft is addressing the flaws of rollslop and rethinking combat entirely, they also added world traversal and stealth as a core mechanic to supplement the sometimes ballbusting hard combat. The more I replay it the more I think it's extremely well designed and Elden Ring is just their response to what people want: boss fights with Myrmidon of Loss where you dodge long flashy combos.

honestly worrying that even japanese game devs from the most well renowned companies no longer remember how to make good games

>>717401412
Sekiro almost seems like a fluke now that we have Nightreign and AC6.

>>717398367
It's hitstop. It gives the illusion of impact. They instead could have made the animation look heavier. The hitstop with those weak, girly swings downright silly

>>717401384
Probably mid 17th century when it entered the English language you philistine

>>717401482
>japanese
They're chinks.
>NeoBards Entertainment Ltd. is an independent game developer founded in February 2017. The company set up headquarters in Hong Kong and studios in Taipei and Suzhou, developing games across multiple platforms including PC, console, and mobile.
>NeoBards is most known for collaborating with publishers such as Capcom, working on co-dev projects such as Resident Evil Re:Verse, Resident Evil:Resistance, and remasters including Resident Evil Origins Collection, Onimusha:Warlords, and the Devil May Cry HD Collection. They have also worked on character skill design and implementation with Square Enix for Marvel’s Avengers.
That travesty of a Dead Rising remake is their work too.

>>717401412
I really hope we someday get a sequel to Sekiro that improves even further on it.

>>717401412
Anon, sekiro literally ushered a different kind of rollslop which is parryslop. That doesn't change the fact that their games still incorporate some sort of ultimate defense no different to platinum games shoving in witch time but with a different coat of paint in their games.
If they made Silent Hill, it would not absolutely play like RE7 because RE7 had no safety mechanic at all.

>>717401785
Why is konami so cheap that they're outsourcing their IPs to foreign devs? Do they not have any inhouse devs anymore?

>>717401783
You don't want to acknowledge it, shitter? Guess I have bait fatigue.

>>717396537
I wanna fuck that doll thing, hope the artists deliver some porn.

>>717401870
Konami only gives a shit about their pachinko machines. It's been that way for years and years.

>>717396465 (OP)
I'm 38 and this will be my first Silent Hill game because survival horror ""puzzle"" crap and inventory management (ammo hoarding/scrounging) is trash.

>>717396465 (OP)
>MC is a fucking schoolgirl
>some monsters are also schoolgirl but creepy
Creatively bankrupt as fuck, specially when this is a franchise in which the joke is seeing how the Japanese adapt western horror iconography in a unique way.
>>717401870
You need a "culture" of game development in order to make high budget games (almost everything nowadays falls under this category).
Konami did its best throwing away most of its developers out the window so they barely have anyone who knows how to get shit done with modern technology. Some devs are still there, but not enough to make anything that's not a small budget game

>>717396537
ABYSMAL DOGSHIT, FUCK THIS GAME AND FUCK KOMONEY
>>717401785
>Resident Evil Re:Verse
>Resident Evil:Resistance
>That travesty of a Dead Rising remake is their work too.
That explains so fucking much, legit DOGSHIT devs

>>717397471
Would.

>>717401870
I actually think they don't, it's all just been Pachinko for years, I'm not sure they have anyone left that isn't that. Who is making Delta again?

>>717396465 (OP)
>>717396537
>Konami says Silent Hill f is more combat focused because young players like challenging action games
I hope this dogshit SoulsSlop flops harder than fucking Khazan

>>717401870
They had some. We all know how that story ended.

>>717396465 (OP)
Isn't the Higurashi writer behind this game?
I hope this finally exposes him as a hack, I swear that faggot is only praised cuz most VNs readers are midwits too stupid to read an actual book but who still want the cred of being smarter to those who don't read books.

>>717396940
I hope this flops to send a message to Bloober Team about their Silent Hill 1 remake. fuckem.

>>717396465 (OP)
>umm silent hill is an action game now because zoomies have ADHD pls understand
please someone kill this franchise PLEASE

>>717402282
He was already exposed as a hack years ago. There's a reason why no one knows of any of his works after Higurashi/Seacats.

>>717402317
You vill enjoy the zombie franchise, chuddy

>>717396465 (OP)
erm, isn't this supposed to be a horror game? It's going to be rated 18+ why are you making changes to target a younger audience?

>>717400789
Damn is almost like pissing with a franchise with a gameplay that has nothing to do with the IP has something to do with
>game does souls-action= :D
Legit one of the most saturated genre of games in the market, probably only loses to gacha and FPS

>>717402282
>>717402346
Careful, this faggot VN writer cult might go after you for calling him a hack

Is there a more whimsy self proclaimed fanbase than Silent Hill fans?

>>717402479
What does that even mean

>>717402317
They've been trying to kill it for 20 years. You it's that easy?

How many of you were actually hyped for this shit? I wanna know how many people fell for another fucking Konami game.

>>717402479
>real silent hill fans don't eat any goyslop they throw at them
I know, thanks anyway

>>717402556
that's a lizard

>>717396537
looks like normal dogshit silent hill combat
whats the issue

>>717402697
>t. zoomer

>>717399213
>Wukong
nioh
Stellar Blad
hack n slash
Wuchang
chink shit
Lies of P
only soulslike
AC6
ARPG shit they've been doing since we wuz kingz

>>717396537

>>717402716
are you genuinely trying to say that silent hill combat ISN'T fucking dogshit in every iteration?

yeah I play silent hill for the action

>>717400414
having a bonfire
doesnt make it souls like
you stupid prick

>>717402724
Wuchang is soulslike. It's the only one in that list that is closest to DaS1.

>>717396537
Idk whats your problem, this is ealistic description of female vs female combat.

>>717396537
But if they wanted to make an action game, why didn't they do it with an action series instead of trying to turn a survival horror series into an action series?

Should I finally give Homecoming a chance? I played five minutes 15 years ago and it's been collecting dust ever since.

>>717402859
yeah its chink shit they copy everthing, these chinky cunts getting sued for copying fucking horizon

>>717403020
No
It's not canon anyways

>>717403020
No, it's a legit bad game. You're better off playing Downpour.

>>717399376
SH2R is actually shit though, it doesn't have a proper collision and using canned paired animations. That's why it will always connect, unlike the original SH2 with a proper collision.

>>717400414
Stellar Blade isn't sluggish in any way compared to any Souls game and you can chain between many different combos and moves, they have basically nothing in common. Sure maybe it's not the very fastest character action game but it's not particularly slow either.

>>717401809
>different kind of rollslop which is parryslop
HAHAHAHAHAHA

What is the likelihood the game truly requires Windows 11?

>>717401412
No it's not, it's just some action game with basically none of the RPG character building that their actual Soulslikes have. It doesn't address flaws as much as it is a completely different combat system entirely, one that's made for an action game instead of an RPG. The "soulslike" combat could sure as shit use some addressing, especially after the direction they took with SotE, but they haven't done any of that yet.

>>717396465 (OP)
>>717396537
Funny how Soulslike has transformed into the corpo default choice for
>I don't know shit about this franchise, but we were shown a chart about a game in the same genre that sold 100 million copies, let's get a studio to make one of those with a well regarded IP even if it has nothing to do with the genre
games.

I remember when that was FPS games, times have changed.

The original games didn't even have good combat by the standards of survival horror at the time.
Do you honestly just want a game where you stand still, and stiffly swing a pipe, while tanking hits?
The "it's supposed to make you feel vulnerable" argument hardly even works, because you're already too powerful in those old games.

>>717402697
The issue, you brain dead zoomer, is that old Silent Hill was a survival game built around avoiding combat, hence the lack of resources to support killing things, it was a last resort. This game is billing itself as an action game and has shit combat straight out of SH2

>>717403164
How is that in any way wrong? Nearly every soulslike nowadays copy sekiro instead of dark souls.

>>717396537
>clunky garbage
looks like silent hill to me.

>>717403337
There it is.
Old Silent Hill is hardly a survival game. You can just clobber everything. it's easy.
Resident Evil actually made you sweat in regards to ammo scarcity.

>>717403020
Hell no. The PC port is still broken too. >>717403078 at least Downpour had some personality and the sidequests were interesting mini stories

>>717403337
lol? no the fuck it wasn't you just beat everything through the jank
the only reason you avoid combat is because of how much of a dogshit chore it is

>>717403315
What? Like 99% of so-called souls-like games are brand new IPs.

Japaneae devs cant stop focus group testing themselves into the grave.

>>717396537
The new ER DLC looks like shit

Are we seriously going to start seeing people say that the Silent Hill franchise has always been about Action Horror?

>>717402346
>>717402282
>>717402450
What happened with the Higurashi guy?

They just have to remove the hitstop and add actual impact/stagger to the enemies getting hit and it'd be okay.

>>717403708
Yes. Blame SH2 remake for bringing these clowns in.

>>717403708
The SH franchise has on the whole always kind of failed as a video game.
The entire appeal is spooky town and weird monsters.

>>717403337
>lack of resources
???
You haven't played the games, have you? The only time there's arguably an actual lack of resources is 4.

>>717396537
>ohh husbandt
>we ran out of frames now I am riferess

>>717403797
Which only works for the first two games. The thing is that even RE stopped being about raccoon city after the 3rd game or so.
It's not just games, the thing about horror media is that it works best as a stand alone.
Look at the Insidious and Conjuring movies.

>>717401507
thats the word i was looking for yea, very funny though

>>717403842
doesn't 4 just throw a million pipes at you

>>717403743
The game is coming out next month good luck with that

>Chinese dev
That alone should tell you all you need to know

>>717403743
And now you're left with an extremely boring soulslike that isn't scary because you're actively running up to every enemy and beating the fuck out of them since combat as unavoidable, so the game turns into a conveyor belt of you pimp slapping monsters with pipes until you hit the next cutscene.

>>717403842
People who "played" the Silent Hill franchise through video essays have a lot to say about how the original games are flawless masterpieces.

>>717403919
nigger have you PLAYED any silent hill game???

>>717403909
that it'll be better because its not a modern jap dev yeah

>>717403862
It's hard to make a franchise out a concept that is exclusively about a single location without any recurring characters or villains even.

>>717396537
If they lower the impact frame count, it wouldn't be so bad.

>>717403919
>describes Silent Hill 1 to a tee
lol

>>717396465 (OP)
I'll probably pirate it, but I've made my peace with this series being dead ever since SH4. Best I can hope for is to be mildly surprised at it being somewhat decent in story.

>>717403919
>>717403337
so the retards getting mad about this and calling people zoomers, never even played a single fucking silent hill game before?

>>717403876
I'm not talking about breakable weapons. Medkits become more sparse as time goes on from I remember, and then it stops being safe in the room (so you lose health in there unless you use a candle). Plus you're always haunted by some fucker, including Walter himself later on. 4 had an actual survival aspect, for once.

>>717396537
Oh what the fuck is this shit?

>>717403508
>Resident Evil actually made you sweat in regards to ammo scarcity
Maybe at the time when you were new to the series but RE1 gives you enough ammo to kill "almost" everything, at the very least to sweep the Mansion and have ammo to spare for the cabin and lab.
RE2 showers you with ammo if you search rooms thoroughly you have more than enough to kill every single enemy in the game.
RE3 ammo crafting mechanic allows you to be comfortable and never worry as long as you aren't trying to kill Nemesis every time.
The only classic RE that still has me worried for ammo is Code Veronica and that's because I cornered myself into a softlock on my first playthrough and the respawning enemies can burn through your supplies if you aren't careful.

>>717401785
>These devs are chinks. NeoBards Entertainment.
>Made Resident Evil:Resistance and that travesty of a Dead Rising remake.

Makes perfect sense now. Garbage. Dead Rising was censored af too and not just 1 or 2 things.

>>717404128
honestly i forgot about that, 4 is a blur to me

>hitstop in silent hill
NOOOOOOOO ITS LE BAD I HAVE LE BAD FATIGUE
>hitstop in dmc
WHOOOOOOOA DATS CUUUUUHRAAAYZZZEEEE XD XD XD

>>717396537
What a piece of shit.

>>717404236
I can't believe a mechanic that works in one genre and game wouldn't work in a completely different genre or game. I also can't believe that a mechanic can be implemented badly despite being implemented well in a totally different game by a completely different team and company.

>>717404236
The chang shill force aren't sending their best with posts like this

>>717396465 (OP)
>>717396537

>look up who's responsible for this
>some no name Taiwan developers with zero background
Konami entrusted this big project to a bunch of nobodies?

>>717404179
>Dead Rising was censored af too and not just 1 or 2 things.
I'm sure that's on Crapcom itself. They're practically a Western company as far as being pozzed goes.

>>717404126
that's every thread on /v/ to be fair

>>717402726
v-ism from streetfighter alpha3 hhh.

the didn't make her do an actual roll in case you might see up her skirt so they did that fast weird teleport thing that looks wack.

>>717398068
They are making games for a major market that doesn't want good games. What do you want them to do?

>>717404445
>Silent Hill
>big project
Dumb sakuraposter.

>>717396465 (OP)
People really, REALLY need to understand that survival horror, as a genre, has been completely monopolized by EVROPA.

>Pathologic Series
>Penumbra Series
>Alan Wake Series
>SOMA
>Signalis
>Darkwood
>Nobody Lives Under the Lighthouse
>Crow Country
>Amnesia Series
>World of Horror
>Who's Lila?
>Blasphemous Series
>Alien: Isolation

And so on, and so forth. For Japan and the US it has been a completely dead genre for the past 2 decades. People really need to set their expectations.

>>717396465 (OP)
it's not horror anymore at that point

its like if demons started spawning irl but at the same time you happen to be wearing max protective armor, have access to any weapon imaginable, and could control a legion of drones and turrets.
no more horror now you're just having fun shitting on demons

>>717404128
I replayed it recently and I wish someone took another shot at it, there's a good game buried under the questionable decisions it needed more time and polish to reach its full potential. It's the only "remake" I wouldn't mind because the premise of being stuck in an apartment is too interesting on its own, I'd take even an indie giving it a shot as long as it's Tormented Souls level of presentation and not lowpoly fake soul PSX garbage

>>717404630
It's tripe a thoughbeit

>>717404172
admittedly, a lot of it is more the psychological fear of running out of ammo.
I think I only flat out ran out of ammo is the first time I played one, and treated it like Doom. And I pretty quickly grasped that's not how you play.
I'm sure if you break it down, the games are mostly balanced to give you what you need, when you need it.

>>717403962
>>717404047
>>717404126
I don't remember saying that Silent Hill was good.

>>717403337
>survival game built around avoiding combat
All of the games have multiple instances of unavoidable fighting, this goes all the way back to the original Alone in the Dark and RE1. Maybe actually try playing the games for once instead of just repeating stuff you've read on /v/.
>>717404172
Agreed. None of these games are these ultra difficult experiences relative to the era they were released in that these people have built up inside their heads, but it's actually a very commonly held opinon here. Survival horror predates the actual survival genre and has very little in common with it which I think is what they tend to confuse it with.

>>717403508
I don't know, I remember renting the first silent hill as a child and running out of resources on top of the little light battery running out when I was in the basement of the hospital, I was also in a room by myself and it was late evening so getting dark.
I immediately shut the game off and went to play mario party with my family in the other room, I was so scared.

>>717396465 (OP)
this shit is going to bomb and kill the franchise for good isn't it?

>>717404864
>I don't know, I remember renting the first silent hill as a child
These games are all harder when you're a kid. People actually thought the OG Resident Evil was "survival horror" when you can literally blast everything twice over with all the ammo the game gave you.

As a silent hill 1-4 and higurashi/umineko fan, I'm coping very hard.

I can deal with dogshit combat, but I can't cope with a horror game that brings out combat as the focus and then shits the bed with some stupid dark souls inspired parry/rollslop system, or with a game thats pointlessly padded out to 20+ hours like what blooper did with the SH2 remake.

I just want Japanese aesthetic and crazy drama kino, is there any chance in hell for me?

>>717404896
With nu-konami, no franchise is dead until they've squeezed every last pachinko slot drop out of it

>>717404972
There's a good chance you can run past 95% of enemies in the game. Same as literally every Silent Hill, including the SH2 remake.

>>717404692
Says who?

>>717404972
>As a silent hill 1-4 and higurashi/umineko fan
So you are mtf trans

>>717404896
Nah, the SH2 remake sold well and they're already planning on making another remake.
Remakes are easy money, people will buy them even if they're not good based on the success of the original.

>>717404938
It's the mind games it plays with you though
>oh no, I only have five bullets now, and I don't know where the next bullet pick-up will drop, so I'm going to have to try to run past everything, and I'll probably get myself hurt doing that, like the stupid child I am

But yeah, Silent Hill straight up gives you a pipe that can mostly make quick work of everything, and lets you go to town.

>>717403919
>And now you're left with an extremely boring soulslike that isn't scary because you're actively running up to every enemy and beating the fuck out of them since combat as unavoidable, so the game turns into a conveyor belt of you pimp slapping monsters with pipes until you hit the next cutscene.
When you put it like that, it sounds like Silent Hill was never good.

>>717405095
There's really no mind games. Once you realize you can best everything to death the mystique is gone.

Again, it only works when you're a kid, but so does any games with tricks.

>>717396537
I hate Crapcom hitstop

>>717405047
>mtf trans
>not tranny
I know what you are

>>717403337
Every peep nitpicking on this post misses the point. The point is that Silent Hill is supposed to be a horror game, not an action combat game. Globbering on knife wielding dolls with a pipe goes against that.

>>717405231
Based retard.

>>717405401
At that point you're just proposing taking stuff away that was in the old games though.

>combat in horror game bad
We reached full circle

>Everyone is talking about souls fatigue
Hmm could this be the end? Just like how third person brown and bloom shooters finally fucked off

>>717405541
This will only end once said games stop selling well consistently. People on the internet complaining doesn't always translate to everyone being tired of the thing sadly and developers don't get the memo until way later.

it's safe to say fromslopware has been the worst influence on modern vidya design from these past 15 years or so

absolute braindead dumbing down of everything that used to make combat interesting

>>717405541
Souls games are actually good. There just needs not to be ten of them every year. I cant play all those games.
Plus Elden Ring was kinda bad, and no one wants to address this.

>>717405698
You should kill yourself

>>717405481
Go ahead and do that then

>>717405541
>Fromsoftware releases a soulslike game
>gaming media screams AWOOOGA and creams itself
>some other dev releases a soulslike game
>gaming media suddenly feels a soulslike fatigue
Rinse and repeat.

>>717405810
>NoooO! Why aren't you jumping on my bandwagon!
I'm too old to care about peer pressure. I didn't want to be in your gang to begin with. This is what actually not being a zoomer is like.

>>717396537
This looks like the SH2 remake but with a limited stamina bar though?

>>717405879
And in reality Elden Ring is a poorly judged slog, and Stellar Blade was a breath of fresh air,

>>717405975
Yes, and the SH2 Remake sucked dick. Adding more shitty souls combat isn't going to make it any better.

>>717405698
>Souls games are actually good
no

they were a welcome and much needed novelty during the hd twins era because of how shit the rest of the industry trends were but they were never deep or interesting enough to justify more than a decade of mediocre iteration on the concept

>>717405975

>>717396537
Meh I was expecting this to be nothing like silent hill but this looks like the usual Silent Hill combat to me

This is literally just going to be Silent Hill Japan Edition

>>717405975
>enemy doesnt react at all to hits
>lock on
>stamina bar
its really not like silent hill 2 remake tho ?

>>717406092
"deep" is a buzzword.

Sounds like Konami wants to have the cake and eat it too. Strange that Konami a Japanese publisher, doesn't understand demographics millenials were the baby boomers of video games. Birth rates are collapsing software sales are in a downwards trend. Throw in how zoomers gaming habits are different from millenials.

>>717405975
SH2 had too much bad combat as well

>>717405975
SH2 Remake is nu-GoW lite combat, enemies slide towards you. Souls combat is hitbox based.

Silent Hill is literally place in america
this isn't silent hill

SHINO Silent Hill in name only

So, I think the game looks good.

It was never about some autistic lore thing for me, I just wanted good games.

Book of Memories looked shit, and it was. HD Collection looked shit, and it was. Ascension looked shit, and it was (can you even still watch it?). The Short Message looked shit, and it was.

But this game looks cool. I don't really see any 0/10 yikes hard pass shit anywhere. It looks beautiful and seems to have a decent combat system. I don't think "the fanbase" earned it's reputation as constant negative killjoys we just kept getting shit games.

But I might be wrong, and Silent Hill fans indeed, "will never be happy".

>>717406454
SH2 is half the length of the remake and outside of a few tight rooms it never forced combat on you. Enemies in remake are so aggressive that you have no choice but fight them and they're fucking everywhere ready to ambush you at every corner.

>>717406645
>It looks beautiful
It looks like a PS3 game lol

>>717396537
Ito is an old, sad broken man, Konami could've forced him to design the monsters at least. This shit look pretty lame.

>>717406678
And Silent Hill 3 looks like a PS2 game, and its beautiful.

>>717406362
yeah for fromdrones maybe

>>717406742
SH3 had some actual art design, this looks generic as fuck

Oooh, so excited for more Silent Hill™ content! Give me more of that content, yes, yes. I don't even care if it's a hollow shell, oh yes, yum yum, all that delicious grey gruel content. Mmmm, so bland and flavorless, I love content gimme more

>>717406794
No no no. You showed your hand. "Old graphics = bad". Opinion discarded.

>>717406882
Is this really the best shills can come up with? That's just pathetic.

I'm really disappointed with creature designs by far. This is just generic fromsoft blob monster.

>>717406970
But he has pretty flowers all over him

>>717396465 (OP)
>when the older people have fatter wallet, know better and more willing to pay?
lmao, look at Final Fantasy. It's dead as fuck and the average age of FF fans is 42.

>>717407086
Square Enix is one of the few companies that manage to out retard Konami

>>717407086
inal Fantasy is selling great for a game series that has been objectively bad for 20 years.

>>717407086
FF abandoned its roots. I've been a FF fan my whole life and the shit they make now is not for Final Fantasy fans. Like Silent Hill.

Only small dick faggots hate action horror. I have nothing but disdain for people who play games like Amnesia or Outlast where you just have to run away from everything. You're not real men.

>>717405401
>>717405842
>The point is that Silent Hill is supposed to be a horror game, not an action combat game.
Or you can just accept that both things can be true at once instead of being a purist. If you want Amnesia style games then Silent Hill was never for you with the exception of Shattered Memories.

>>717407178
Doesn't matter. It's been supplanted by Persona and its ilk which all have a much younger and more numerous base.

>>717407196
You're in luck, this goy chow is strictly for your consumption.

>>717407319
You would never say this to my face, you're either pathetically skinny or morbidly obese.

This one is actually good It's disturbing because this is one of her classmate reminds me of the heredetary

>>717407347
Just sit there and eat the chow, you fucking pig

>>717407380
Yup, that's what I thought, pussy.

>>717407287
Retard

>>717396465 (OP)
E33 has proven that the low IQ public wants every genre to be parryslop. Now eat the slop

>>717405401
>Silent Hill is supposed to be a horror game, not an action combat game
Shit SH "fans" say because most of them only ever watched SH on youtube. SH was full of combat from day 1. Just because the combat was shit doesn't mean it wasn't there

>>717396537
why is there dodging
why is there hitstop

whyyyyyyy

>>717407637
did you not play Silent Hill 2 remake?

>>717407619
>SH1
>shit combat
Nigger, please.

>>717407850
>remake
slop

>le japan

Failed game

Silent hill was always set in america
This looks like that weird ps3 game not interested in SH in jap

>>717407883
Yes?

>>717408019
>tank controls argument
come on dooode

>>717396465 (OP)
it's not trying to be a old style Silent Hill though it's a Ryukishi scenario so I say let the violence makes it way into the gameplay

Just make it DMC now it already has DMC combat lmao

>>717408067
Who said anything about tank controls? If you can't tell what's wrong in the webm I can't help you.

>>717408263
>no hitreg
the only problem is the godawful ps1 turning tank controls, my dude

>>717408019
that's just a guy playing poorly 2bdesu, SH1 had decent combat for its time. Better than Tomb Raider and more fluid than RE1-3 (although less deep)

>>717408019
>posts DSP-skilled player
>SEE??? ITS BAD!!!
Disingenuous faggot.

>>717403535
>The PC port is still broken too.

There is that Russian dude that has been reverse engineering the Homecoming engine for 15 years now, it should be pretty playable by now.

>>717408019
>/v/ will unironically tell you that this is one of the greatest games ever made

>>717408540
>>717408019
Good doubleposting retard bait

>>717408296
>>717408349
He's playing poorly yet the dog still can't hit him even once? I'm impressed that I actually had to spell it out for you.

The fact that you can't see he's clearly doing it on purpose too... Whew.

Here's something else that you can't do with a puny knife that's supposed to have zero stopping power in any RE either.

>>717408435
>reverse engineering the Homecoming engine out of all things
>for 15 years
Autism is truly a curse.

>>717408540
No you don't understand every game needs to be an over the shoulder shoulder UE5 shooter with parry and iframe dodge mechanics.

Why do people make an issue out of this?

Silent Hill 2 remake already did the same combat and the game was praised into oblivion and btfo'd Bloober haters in the mainstream.

The only difference I see is stamina, which actually fits more into horror.

>>717396465 (OP)
funny how they complained how silent hill wasnt "japanese" enough now they want to add roll slop and shitty combat to a horror game.

>>717408783
In SH2R attacks didn't have hitstop and feel connected.

>>717396465 (OP)
And there's the proof. 32 is still young. PHEW!

>>717396465 (OP)
Are people really calling this a soulslike? Is every third person game where you hit things and dodge now a soulslike? Fucking retards.

>>717408854
>Its not Japanese enough
>Its outsourced to a Chinese studio
Lmfao the frauds

>>717406626
That's basically the entire Resident Evil/Biohazard game series since it jumped the shark

>>717409197
it has bonfires and rpg mechanics

>>717409420
Every silent hill game has a save room

>>717409383
had dino crisis been made today nu capcom would have callled it
resident evil: the dino crisis

>>717409683

>>717396465 (OP)
F

>>717397471
That is a ton of hitstop, looks chunky
Would be fine in a game that isn’t Silent Hill.
What is the benefit if this here?

>>717396465 (OP)
>aiming for young players
Roundabout way to tell me that the "horror" aspect is toned significantly down.

>>717410569
They probably added some liminal spooky rooms to make zoomies shit their pants.

>>717404938
>People actually thought the OG Resident Evil was "survival horror"
>People actually thought that the game that coined the name of the genre I'm using right now was a survival horror
This would be like claiming Demon's Souls is not a soulslike. Speaking of isn't it funny that the original Souls game doesn't even have bonfires which is something people will now insist is a requirement for a game to qualify as a soulslike? Almost like genres are fluid and doesn't actually require copying any one specific game 1:1 mechanically.

>10 year long stutter per hit in a genre where immersion and not remembering that "oh yeah, i'm playing a video game right now" is the most important
>the attacks don't even connect half the time

I do not care about Silent Hill as a franchise. never played the prior games, have no desire to. from my perspective, this is just another new game, could be called 'Loqmwantt' for all I care. and all I care about is how attractive the protagonist is. Does she have other outfits I can change her into? are her pantis modelled? whether I buy the game or not hinges on the answer to those questions.

>>717396465 (OP)
More combat is a redflag solely because Silent Hill Remake 2 already had way too much filler combat while the depth was not there to facilitate it. If this article is anything to go by then it seems the filler is Konamis fault.

>>717397883
And it's working you sad sad little Kojima drone

>>717396601
There's no rolling feature, you colossal memespewing faggots.

>>717396465 (OP)
Based kojima, boomers with dying reaction times can cope

>>717404126
silent hill has been absolutely overrun by posers and secondaries for over a decade

>>717396537
Gamers bought tens of millions of copies of rollslop asset flips and now they're complaining that the gaming landscape is irrevocably fucked? Don't call it a grave.

>>717398068
>all Sega has is Yakuza.
They have Atlus thoughbeit

>>717399584
Because the trailers looked like shit, but the actual combat felt good

>soulslike fatigue
isnt real
you have BAD GAME FATIGUE

I have shitty video game journalist fatigue

>>717396537
Roll Slop Combat but in BAD BeCAUSe you are a japanese Teenage Girl and Not JOHN ROLLSOULS

>soulslike
I'm suprised that not a single AAA game studio tried to make a GaaS looter shooter soulslike survival slop game yet.

>This will sell our horror game

>>717408783
retarded zoomers

i hate remakes and DMC combat

>>717403292
Oh boy, what depth of character building
>I WANT TO USE SWORD
>60 vig 60 dex
>I WANT TO USE MAGIC
>60 vig 60 int
>I WANT TO USE MIRACLES
>60 vig 60 faith
>I WANT TO USE GREAT WEAPONS
>60 vig 66 strength

>>717401078
There is no hitstun which is part of why it's dogshit. If there was then the enemy would actually react to being hit and reel back, etc.

The pause you're talking about is hitstop which is a different thing, and yeah it's excessive.

>>717397471
>>717396537
this looks ass
TLOU did it better on the ps3

>>717396465 (OP)
>young players like challenging combat

that weird, because all the horror games that are popular with teenagers are wacky bullshit where you don't even fight back.

>>717403057
>Silent Hill
>canon
>mattering
You're a fucking retard if you care about the "Silent Hill canon".

>>717396809
The American produced silent hill games already thoroughly debunked that idea.

>>717396465 (OP)
And just like that, all hype I had for this game went away.

>>717403337
>was a survival game built around avoiding combat,
No it wasn't, that is a lie.
Silent Hill literally grades you not just on combat, but on how you engage with the combat. How many enemies you kill via melee and firearm, how many are through long, mid, and short range attacks, and expects you to kill something like 200 enemies in the first game as part of the highest ranking you can get, which gets you one of the better unlockables.
One of the unlocks in Silent Hill for getting any ending for the first time is bullet adjust, which lets you get higher ammo pick ups so you can kill more enemies.
>hence the lack of resources to support killing things, it was a last resort.
No? You get a lot of ammo in SH as it is, and with bullet adjust the game enters in absurd territory after getting all the endings where three picks ups will max out your ammo supply. Even if we presume, incorrectly, that Silent Hill doesn't have a lot of ammo, there's still a fuckton of health pick ups and an entire melee combat system where you get long ranger melee weapons very early on.

>>717396465 (OP)
>players like challenging action games
Then make an action game or release a game from an action IP

>>717396465 (OP)
>>717396537
Dark souls killed gaming

here's hoping the Silent Hill 1 remake goes in the opposite direction (It won't, SH2R already had too much combat)

>>717396465 (OP)
Don't care, still buying because the girl is hot

>>717396537
Ahh just like Dark Souls 2

>>717418536
She's a minor

>>717418307
The SH1 Remake will be the biggest shitshow of this whole revival affair
>Lack of camera angles basically ensures every moment will be ruined
>original game barely has any story, so about 80% of what's in the remake will either be Bloober-original "expansions" on the narrative or shit taken from Origins
>Has the most games attempting to tie into it, and Bloober will inevitably include references to most of them
>Harry, Cybil, Lisa, and Kaufmann will all basically be original characters to fit the new material
>original game is only about five hours long, will HAVE to be expanded to three times the length
>new endings are gay and retarded
>no ranking screen AGAIN
>the next five decades of SH discussion will be about how the original had no story and the remake is a pure replacement for it

>>717396465 (OP)
Just konami things.

Will Lambda appear at the end? Probably

>>717417501
this
If Konami actually wanted the big dosh bags, they should've turned Silent Hill into a FNAF clone.

>>717418649
based can't wait for all the characters to look shittier than ps1 models from 30 years ago some gook made in his basement

>>717399348
You're still beta