How can you guys meditate on anything or using any kind of meditation without first training your thinking mind to be silent through regulating the muscles to be relaxed and the breathing to be deep and slow?
I used to sit for years using many types of meditation (and yes I stayed with one for a long time) but my thoughts always took me away into daydreaming without me realizing it, I have probably brought myself back from daydreaming thousands of times but it never got better.
Only after training yogasanas and doing breathwork in order to retrain my breath to be slow and silent I saw improvement.
My guess is that many of you awesome meditators already had a properly regulated nervous, muscular and breathing system which lead to you guys not having an overactive overthinking mind.