>>82785568
animals rape eachother and kill their own children all the time. infantaside is very common in the animal kindgom. does that make it okay for humans to rape and kill their children?

anon, we dont get our morals from wild animals, nor should we. just because a lion does it, doesnt make it okay for you to do it. you're better than that, you can understand right from wrong, animals cant

>>82785628
>maybe we don't need to eat animals to survive anymore but is not morally wrong to keep eating them
but of course its wrong. its needless violence and cruelty. is it okay to inflict needless cruelty in any other circumstance? like torturing dogs for fun, for example? like hasan piker recently

>>82785810
>I'd end up starving to death as a vegan.
thats not true. just eat lots of vegan food. it can be pretty yummy. falafel wraps can have a lot calories if thats what you want

>>82785826
heres a thought experiment:
why is it okay to kill animals for meat, but not humans?
what is true about animals, that if true about humans, would make it okay to kill humans for meat?