>>719802305
I really disagree with people not counting Liquid Ocelot as Liquid. They spent a whole game yelling and explaining memes in MGS2, how individuals, ideas and memories aren't just passed down genetically or biologically, and Liquid Ocelot is essentially the embodiment of that. If Raiden is considered a Snake then Liquid Ocelot is by all rights Liquid.

Like, imagine if it actually was Liquid in MGS4, would anything that happened in the game change at all? No, because Ocelot embodied Liquid and his memes perfectly.