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Natsuko Hirose is represented correctly by actually being the animation director who gives the orders around and the boss endears her while the employees find her creepy and unbearable. That's how you write these sort of negative characters.

Like that post talking about Naruto and Ash Ketchum says that he's seen his fair share of losers just as I did, but Bianca & Loki are very boring and unlikable.
I've seen loser characters in Undergrads and Downtown and even some shows attempting to portray winner characters as losers such as Danny Phantom and Peter Parker by making them get bullied or kill their family members and live with their aunt or grandmother during college or work wagecuck jobs.
But Pan's Loki and Bianca and her other iterations of her are beyond the normal threshold of losers.

There was actually an episode in Downtown completely focusing on this where they try to get the loser MC a date by lowering his standards and it showed him that by relation he's a winner compared to what chicks were being shoved down his throat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI53Mm3g3Hg&list=PLjLt9Ko9Xnsicvt79T6plaoDguyPpzbuM&index=7

This is his usual friend girl which he hangs out with.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV2NcQ1_qWo&list=PLjLt9Ko9Xnsicvt79T6plaoDguyPpzbuM&index=8

Then there's Mission Hell where they do something a little different ... instead of the main character being the loser ( he still is a loser) they introduce an even bigger loser than him, his little brother.
But even by comparison the 2 MCs in Undergrads look like losers compared to the big brother from Mission Hill
And the 2 MCs looks like winners compared to the little brother.

You know the most ironic thing? These are all 13 episode only cartoons with swears and adult subject matters in them without it being Family Guy/Simpsons' art style and they handle the drama far better than Helluva Boss and any other adult indie cartoon full of swears and character drama.