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>when Zwag does his weird builds do you think they work in challenger
Missing the point. The "meme builds" are his excuse, as is anyone else's. It's a player 30 ranks above everyone else in his lobby. It doesn't matter what he builds. No ifs or buts, there's no excuse or reason why these people shouldn't get phased out and banned so they can go back to their original main accounts and play in their rank appropriate lobbies.

>i'm not smurfing in emerald or anything...
And as I said, smurfing in Gold-Eme is something different than smurfing in Masters is.

>you can build AS crit seraphine in silver and get the same results
I think we're misunderstanding each other on this point. Would you be able to get away with it in a Silver game whereas you wouldn't in a Challenger game? Absolutely. But will you be able to *see* the effects of the AS crit Seraphine build in Silver and be able to see what it does and gauge whether it's viable or not? You would. This is what I mean by it not mattering if you're playing against an E4 or a Masters player.
If you don't wanna continue arguing that's fine too though. Thanks for even entertaining the discussion. It's interesting to see someone else's perspective on the matter.