Israel came into existence because Zionist Jews ethnically-cleansed Palestinians with arms primarily bought from Czechoslovakia brokered by USSR and facilitated by Yugoslavia from 1947 to 1949. US only began arming them in 1962.
>June 1947 to October 1949
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arms_shipments_from_Czechoslovakia_to_Israel
Balfour Declaration was three decades earlier in November 1917 and had no effect on Israel's creation in practical and material terms. It's literally a Leftist talking point to do damage-control and distraction for the Warsaw Pact and Yugoslavia. Zionists also parrot it to give Israel a bare minimum sense of legitimacy and to also distract from the fact that they had to shoot, bomb and lynch Brits to get them to abandon Palestine to them when the mandate ended. Britain actually had imposed restrictions on Jewish migration and wanted to hand Palestine back to its Arab majority.
>February 1944 to May 1948
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine
There were countless agreements between different parties before and during WWI to partition the Ottoman Empire. Who got what ultimately depended on who could force or enforce what. France recognized Israel on January 12, 1949 becaming its main ally in the 1950s, eventually joined by the UK who previously only recognized Israel on April 28, 1950.
Besides the US, the entire Warsaw Pact and Yugoslavia recognized Israel within days or weeks following May 14, 1948, excluding East Germany. Following the June 1967 Six-Day War, all of them excluding Romania nominally broke relations with Israel because the USSR had more Arab allies. Yet, the USSR still let Jews mass-emigrate to Israel starting in 1969.
Even the Ethiopian Jews (Beta Israel) from what's now Eritrea and Ethiopia were from another communist state aligned with Soviet Russia. After the Warsaw Pact ended in 1991, another 1.5 million Jews poured into Israel from the defunct bloc, especially from the former USSR.
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>>64134372
>>64130419
The IEA never attacked US soil nor had anything to do with 9/11. Al-Qaeda operated in Afghanistan the same way Northern Alliance and Hezb-e-Islam factions and other groups operated in Afghanistan. Afghan Taliban simply didn't control all of Afghanistan or whatever went on inside it by different actors.
Invading Afghanistan did nothing to actually prosecute or eliminate the persons behind 9/11. Anyone with a brain can predict that AQ leaders would simply leave the country when NATO invaded, which is what they did. You don't need to invade and occupy Afghanistan in order to eliminate said leaders, whether they be hiding in Afghanistan, Pakistan or elsewhere. Targeted drone strikes or special operations could do that, which is what the US ultimately had to do.
9/11 wasn't reliant on IEA or Afghanistan at all. The hijackers were from elsewhere and did their flight training in the US! Had the attack happened like a decade later, it's unlikely anyone would get away with suggesting an invasion of an entire country in response. Attacks like that only need international phonecalls, emails or internet to be conducted. That includes the 1995 bombing in KSA, the 1998 bombing in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 2000 bombing in Yemen.
AQ operatives were located across the world. Their attacks weren't staged from nor reliant on one central location at all.
>>64136732
What you're saying is very reductionist and inaccurate. Hamas aren't very eschatological. They're also not the only ones fighting. There's PIJ, and Marxist groups like PFLP and DFLP fighting too.
Hamas has been open to and actively conducted talks with the US and Israel, but it's Israel that wants total surrender by Hamas and to continue genociding Gazans because nobody's stopping them but plenty aiding it. That's why they've broken every past ceasefire and refuse to end the war. At this point even if Hamas surrendered there's no guarantee that Israel will stop. So they see no point surrendering.
>>64130419
The IEA never attacked US soil nor had anything to do with 9/11. Al-Qaeda operated in Afghanistan the same way Northern Alliance and Hezb-e-Islam factions and other groups operated in Afghanistan. Afghan Taliban simply didn't control all of Afghanistan or whatever went on inside it by different actors.
Invading Afghanistan did nothing to actually prosecute or eliminate the persons behind 9/11. Anyone with a brain can predict that AQ leaders would simply leave the country when NATO invaded, which is what they did. You don't need to invade and occupy Afghanistan in order to eliminate said leaders, whether they be hiding in Afghanistan, Pakistan or elsewhere. Targeted drone strikes or special operations could do that, which is what the US ultimately had to do.
9/11 wasn't reliant on IEA or Afghanistan at all. The hijackers were from elsewhere and did their flight training in the US! Had the attack happened like a decade later, it's unlikely anyone would get away with suggesting an invasion of an entire country in response. Attacks like that only need international phonecalls, emails or internet to be conducted. That includes the 1995 bombing in KSA, the 1998 bombing in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 2000 bombing in Yemen.
AQ operatives were located across the world. Their attacks weren't staged from nor reliant on one central location at all.
>>64136732
What you're saying is very reductionist and inaccurate. Hamas aren't very eschatological. They're also not the only ones fighting. There's PIJ, and Marxist groups like PFLP and DFLP fighting too.
Hamas has been open to and actively conducted talks with the US and Israel, but it's Israel that wants total surrender by Hamas and to continue genociding Gazans because nobody's stopping them but plenty aiding it. That's why they've broken every past ceasefire and refuse to end the war. At this point even if Hamas surrendered there's no guarantee that Israel will stop. So they see no point surrendering.
>>64136732
What you're saying is very reductionist and inaccurate. Hamas aren't very eschatological. They're also not the only ones fighting. There's PIJ and Marxist groups like PFLP and DFLP fighting too.
Hamas is very open to and has actively conducted talks with the US and Israel, but it's Israel that wants total surrender by Hamas and to continue genociding Gazans because nobody's stopping them but plenty aiding it. That's why they've broken every past ceasefire and refuse to end the war. At this point even if Hamas surrendered there's no guarantee that Israel will stop. So they see no point surrendering.
>>64134372
>>64130419
The IEA never attacked US soil nor had anything to do with 9/11. Al-Qaeda operated in Afghanistan the same way Hizbul Islam, Northern Alliance factions, and other groups operated in Afghanistan. Afghan Taliban simply didn't control all of Afghanistan or whatever went on inside it by different actors.
Invading Afghanistan did nothing to actually prosecute or eliminate the persons behind 9/11. Anyone with a brain can predict that AQ leaders would simply leave the country when NATO invaded, which is what they did. You don't need to invade and occupy Afghanistan in order to eliminate said leaders, whether they be hiding in Afghanistan, Pakistan or elsewhere. Targeted drone strikes or special operations could do that, which is what the US ultimately had to do.
9/11 wasn't reliant on IEA or Afghanistan at all. The hijackers were from elsewhere and did their flight training in the US! Had the attack happened like a decade later, it's unlikely anyone would get away with suggesting an invasion of an entire country in response. Attacks like that only need international phonecalls, emails or internet to be conducted. That includes the 1995 bombing in KSA, the 1998 bombing in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 2000 bombing in Yemen.
AQ operatives were located across the world. Their attacks weren't staged from nor reliant on one central location at all.
What you're saying is very reductionist and inaccurate. Hamas aren't very eschatological. They're also not the only ones fighting. There's PIJ and Marxist groups like PFLP and DFLP fighting too.
Hamas is very open to and has actively conducted talks with the US and Israel, but it's Israel that wants total surrender by Hamas and to continue genociding Gazans because nobody's stopping them but plenty aiding it. That's why they've broken every past ceasefire and refuse to end the war. At this point even if Hamas surrendered there's no guarantee that Israel will stop. So they see no point surrendering.
>>64134372
>>64130419
The IEA never attacked US soil nor had anything to do with 9/11. Al-Qaeda operated in Afghanistan the same way Hizbul Islam, Northern Alliance factions, and other groups operated in Afghanistan. Afghan Taliban simply didn't control all of Afghanistan or whatever went on inside it by different actors.
Invading Afghanistan did nothing to actually prosecute or eliminate the persons behind 9/11. Anyone with a brain can predict that AQ leaders would simply leave the country when NATO invaded, which is what they did. You don't need to invade and occupy Afghanistan in order to eliminate said leaders, whether they be hiding in Afghanistan, Pakistan or elsewhere. Targeted drone strikes or special operations could do that, which is what the US ultimately had to do.
9/11 wasn't reliant on IEA or Afghanistan at all. The hijackers were from elsewhere and did their flight training in the US! Had the attack happened like a decade later, it's unlikely anyone would get away with suggesting an invasion of an entire country in response. Attacks like that only need international phonecalls, emails or internet to be conducted. That includes the 1995 bombing in KSA, the 1998 bombing in Kenya and Tanzania, and the 2000 bombing in Yemen.
AQ operatives were located across the world. Their attacks weren't staged from nor reliant on one central location at all.