ryan and jeff were both gifted with the gab, they were the perfect podcasters and were aptly around for the start of the podcasting boom. everything after has been a cheap imitation both inside and out of gb. anyone can go back and listen to peak but you wont and i dont blame you, it was genuinely a 'you had to be there' point in history. also yeah it started going downhill once they picked up patrick and tried to become legitimate 'journalists' instead of friends that talked about vidya. oh well.