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You gorilla retards, the word Gnostic can first be seen used in early 2nd century
Irenaeus's Against Heresies (Book I, Chapter 11, Section 1):

"There is another Gnostic sect (Gk: ἕτερον γνωστικὸν φῦλον - heteron gnostikon phylon) which has grown out of the followers of Saturninus and Marcion. They call themselves disciples of Matthias, and they propose for themselves the traditions they claim to have received in secret through him."
and even earlier it was most likely used by Justin Martyrs now lost writings against heresies.

Scholars main the phrase proto-Gnosticism as used to refer to that which came before Christ; this is what you subscribe to. You are not Gnostics, you are proto-gnostics, a diverse movement that abscribes to various beliefs such as egyptian mystery schooling, Platonist demiurge concepts, and Zoroastrian dualism. The actual historical Gnostic sects like the Valentinians, Sethians, and Borborites were explicitly CHRISTIAN movements that emerged in the 2nd century. They weren't just repackaging pagan mysticism; they were interpreting the Christian message through a Platonic lens, creating complex systems to explain the problem of evil and the nature of the divine. Your "secret wisdom" is a modern reconstruction, a LARP that ignores the actual theological context of the groups you claim to represent. The fact that you have to deny the very existence of the term "Gnosticism" to make your argument proves you have no historical leg to stand on.

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No, he fulfilled them, which lead to the moral law emphasized by Paul and his famous saying "there is neither no more jew or greek" (referring to ritual law no longer being enforced, or the philsophical pitfall of the greek following a polytheistic pantheon (of which none are ascribed to be the unmoved creator by which Socrates held in high regard)

Of course it was a literary form that which Paul spoke of; because when he went into Athens he saw statues commemorating an Unknown God https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unknown_God
predating even Egypt itself, Paul clarified to the philosophers of the prestigious Academy of Athens (and later governors who brought him upon a hill to listen to what he had to say, paralleling Plato on the Hill); "the Unknown God is God made manifest in Jesus Christ" (paraphrased).

The hellenisitc syncretizing of pagan elements into Catholicism is proof of the abolishing of the former Judean way by which current Jews today deny, in testament to their self-inflection given Jesus fulfilled their Messianistic implications in all but their egoistic desire to conquer their conquerors using military might.