>>513955579
They are genuine, but not retarded. For them the arguments or facts don't matter. Every word they say means something different then their words. They will say that Bush and Cheney are OK, as long as the great Satan is on their side. They only care for victory at any cost. Even if it means the destruction of their own values, and even if it means making a conflict where there is none. They will stop at nothing for victory. Pyrrhic, false, technical, any victory even if it hurts them is still a victory.
You should understand this, internalize it, know that they hate you for doing nothing but disagree with them and they want you dead for it.
Treat them in kind