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"The Pandaren" that Samwise painted on the wall of his daughter's bedroom was a "joke", yes. It looked like an actual panda, rather than a Pandaren. This then evolved to become the iconic pair Chen and Li Li Stormstout, the former of which was shown in Warcraft 3. People who do not understand -- because they are incapable of speaking proper English -- the difference between "this one Pandaren I drew was a joke at first" and "all Pandaren are a joke" are the issue; even when their goalpost-moving argument isn't constantly flip-flopping between "Chen was a joke" and "Pandaren as a whole are a joke". That is why they deserve ridicule: their poor communication skills both lead to them taking in information incorrectly, and then presenting it incorrectly.