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>if you include bees and ants wasps actually are a consistent clade lol.
okay yeah
>any serious biologist would call them wasps,
who THOUGH
>i was raised by biologists and was pursuing a degree in evolutionary biology for a while
makes sense that you failed
>you can't stop being in a clade. you are a lobe finned fish
i mean ur right bees evolved from wasps but we don't call them wasps for a reason because they are different in many ways and cant breed THOUGH but yeah if you mean a bee is a wasp as in it evolved from a wasp okay i guess its a wasp but idk like you can't write that in a scientific article

but "wasp" isn't used like the word "ape" like how humans and gorillas are considered apes

also i'm tired of arguing about wasps for 3 hours...
>you are a lobe finned fish
well yeah i mean we kinda descended from picrel so... yeah... weird...