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the way people talk about Azrael/Jean-Paul Valley makes it seem like most people are familiar with second-hand summaries of Knightfall than actually reading the character
Hes nothing like Red Hood at all. He has no actual desire for vengeance or , it's all in his programming that he's conflicted over.
The real angle to take JPV is that he's basically a pretty boy with a dark past he's not entirely aware of and a sort of split personality, while also lacking any self-assurance or direction. In a lot of ways he feels more like a Japanese character to me, but he never quite gets the self-actualization that makes that sort of storytelling tolerable where he rises to some greater purpose and takes control of his lack of direction
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>Dude he just beats the holy shit out of killer croc. croc was crying I think when bane just broke his hand.
The thing about JPV is that he was never meant to be a "cool" guy. He's a computer science nerd who's in essence a reader insert(like how Tim, another computer geek, was a reader stand in too). His armor is meant to be cool, at least to then-contemporary tastes, but the twist is Jean-Paul himself is more of a cipher than acting entirely on his own.
He has a voice in his head telling him how he should be more brutal and kill- in a sense it's like the reader thinking about how Batman should just get it over with and kill the Joker. The story ends with him trying to replace Batman, only to see the light and realize Batman's mercy is what makes him human.
>Dude he just beats the holy shit out of killer croc. croc was crying I think when bane just broke his hand.
The thing about JPV is that he was never meant to be a "cool" guy. He's a computer science nerd who's in essence a reader insert(like how Tim, another computer geek, was a reader stand in too). His armor is meant to be cool, at least to then-contemporary tastes, but the twist is Jean-Paul himself is more of a cipher than acting entirely on his own.
He has a voice in his head telling him how he should be more brutal and kill- in a sense it's like the reader thinking about how Batman should just get it over with and kill the Joker. The story ends with him trying to replace Batman, only to see the light and realize Batman's mercy is what makes him human.