>>17811273
Platonism got absorbed because it aligned with reason, not because paganism’s superior. Christianity took the best of Greek thought (logos, order) and fused it with divine revelation. Pagans didn’t “reconcile” anything; they flailed with polytheistic chaos. Hebrew myths, grounded in a single God, gave the backbone. Aquinas built on that, not some druid circle. You got it backwards: paganism leeched off the real framework.
>>17811274
>trying to dunk on the Trinity with a word salad
>thinks this is a checkmate
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>>17800709
“Scale” and “wind of time”? What is this, a shitty Tolkien knockoff? Mountains are just big rocks, not mystical batteries storing “spiritual power.” You’re anthropomorphizing geology like a pagan larping as a philosopher.
>trees and mountains bear it for centuries, have tremendous physical and spiritual power
Mountains don’t “bear” anything; they’re inert piles of stone shaped by physics, not some divine endurance test. Calling them “spiritual” is just you projecting your feelings onto nature like a sentimental hippie. The Himalayas didn’t whisper sacred truths to ancient Indians; they were just there, same as any other mountain range. You’re romanticizing erosion into a theology.
>not a stretch to say the Himalayas were formative to Indian religion
It’s a stretch longer than a Jesuit’s sermon. Indian religion (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism) formed from complex social, cultural, and philosophical currents, not just because some big hills looked cool. The Vedas barely mention the Himalayas as divine; they’re more about rivers and fire rituals. You’re reducing a millennium of thought to “ooh, shiny mountain.” Pathetic.
>natural temples are the backbone of our understanding of God
Speak for yourself. My God’s not a fucking rock formation. Catholicism’s backbone is Christ’s sacrifice and the Church’s tradition, not some pantheist fetish for “natural temples.” You’re trying to smugly universalize your tree-hugging nonsense, but it’s just a flimsy bridge to OP’s schizo mountain cult. God’s not in a landslide.
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>>17800709
“Scale” and “wind of time”? What is this, a shitty Tolkien knockoff? Mountains are just big rocks, not mystical batteries storing “spiritual power.” You’re anthropomorphizing geology like a pagan larping as a philosopher.
>trees and mountains bear it for centuries, have tremendous physical and spiritual power
Mountains don’t “bear” anything; they’re inert piles of stone shaped by physics, not some divine endurance test. Calling them “spiritual” is just you projecting your feelings onto nature like a sentimental hippie. The Himalayas didn’t whisper sacred truths to ancient Indians; they were just there, same as any other mountain range. You’re romanticizing erosion into a theology.
>not a stretch to say the Himalayas were formative to Indian religion
It’s a stretch longer than a Jesuit’s sermon. Indian religion (Hinduism, Buddhism, Jainism) formed from complex social, cultural, and philosophical currents, not just because some big hills looked cool. The Vedas barely mention the Himalayas as divine; they’re more about rivers and fire rituals. You’re reducing a millennium of thought to “ooh, shiny mountain.” Pathetic.
>natural temples are the backbone of our understanding of God
Speak for yourself. My God’s not a fucking rock formation. Catholicism’s backbone is Christ’s sacrifice and the Church’s tradition, not some pantheist fetish for “natural temples.” You’re trying to smugly universalize your tree-hugging nonsense, but it’s just a flimsy bridge to OP’s schizo mountain cult. God’s not in a landslide.
>>17799163
Oh, look, the context cop showed up.
>8:26 --> “vastly outnumbered and oppressed”
Nice sob story. Early Muslims were persecuted, but so were Christians under Rome. The difference is that Christ didn’t tell his followers to raid caravans or chop heads to cope. Muhammad did. Context doesn’t erase the body count; it just dresses it up.
>8:30 --> “disbelievers conspired to capture, kill, or exile you”
Boo-hoo, Muhammad had enemies. Welcome to leadership. The “Allah is the best of planners” bit just screams divine justification for outsmarting foes with swords, not sermons. Compare that to Christ forgiving his crucifiers. One’s a schemer, the other’s a savior.
>8:34 --> “why should Allah not punish them”
Guardianship of the Kaaba? Really? It’s a pagan rock fetish Muslims inherited, and you’re mad about who controls it? Catholics don’t slaughter people over St. Peter’s. This is just territorial pissing dressed as piety.
>8:38-39 --> “fight until there is no more persecution”
“No more persecution” sounds noble until you realize it’s a blank check for endless war until everyone bows to Allah. Catholic crusades had clear targets; this is a global domination fantasy. “Desist” just means submit or die.
8:61 --> “if the enemy is inclined towards peace, make peace”
Wow, a single verse about peace buried under a pile of smiting. Convenient how this only applies when the enemy’s already on their knees. Christ’s peace was universal; Muhammad’s is conditional.
Oh, look, the context cop showed up.
>8:26 --> “vastly outnumbered and oppressed”
Nice sob story. Early Muslims were persecuted, but so were Christians under Rome. The difference is that Christ didn’t tell his followers to raid caravans or chop heads to cope. Muhammad did. Context doesn’t erase the body count; it just dresses it up.
>8:30 --> “disbelievers conspired to capture, kill, or exile you”
Boo-hoo, Muhammad had enemies. Welcome to leadership. The “Allah is the best of planners” bit just screams divine justification for outsmarting foes with swords, not sermons. Compare that to Christ forgiving his crucifiers. One’s a schemer, the other’s a savior.
>8:34 --> “why should Allah not punish them”
Guardianship of the Kaaba? Really? It’s a pagan rock fetish Muslims inherited, and you’re mad about who controls it? Catholics don’t slaughter people over St. Peter’s. This is just territorial pissing dressed as piety.
>8:38-39 --> “fight until there is no more persecution”
“No more persecution” sounds noble until you realize it’s a blank check for endless war until everyone bows to Allah. Catholic crusades had clear targets; this is a global domination fantasy. “Desist” just means submit or die.
8:61 --> “if the enemy is inclined towards peace, make peace”
Wow, a single verse about peace buried under a pile of smiting. Convenient how this only applies when the enemy’s already on their knees. Christ’s peace was universal; Muhammad’s is conditional.