Bros I'm a pretty casual wow player and I'm struggling to play turtle. And that's not to do with the server itself, but Classic's mindset as a whole. Classic/vanilla is damn nigh-unplayable if you're going solo, or at the very least struggling and nerve-wracking. You die constantly. Hell, it's difficult even if you're in a group of 2 or 3. If the levelling takes me so long to get to 60 (which is where the real game begins), then I'm gonna hate the game.
And the thing is that I realize that the 4chan turtle guild is defunct and I'd have to find a guild of my own. Problem is where to look.

I think I'm starting to realize the retail mindset of easier and more automated early content/leveling now. Ain't nobody got time to struggle killing the gnoll hordes and camps on Redridge for example. I'm seriously considering going back to Pandaland more proper now since Legion.

Sorry for the long post. Maybe I should post this on reddit in hopes of some guild taking notice? I'm at my limit here of dropping Classic for good.