I don't know why you all act as if you can either like leveling or you can either like endgame. I've always liked both sides because I like mmos as a whole I guess. I like being immersed in a world that has anything from good worldbuilding, an interesting story, or big and immersive visuals and music and part of the immersion is having a game where you have to work for what you want and not everything is given to you, gradually building your progression or your level and when you do get to the top it feels good. I also am a tryhard endgame autist in whatever mmo I play in, both pvp and pve. I enjoy seeing number go up. But most of all I enjoy a big player community in an mmo, people to grind and get good with, people to befriend and level with, people passing by, in my instances, afking with, and even the faggots and narcisists that make up global chat, even the retards that start shit with you over grind spots, I kind of like the whole package. In essence I'm just an mmo enjoyer and I don't really get why you retarded faggots have to pick one or the other and act as if your screeching on /terag/ is going to change the others opinions about how they enjoy playing games.