>>83102350
>i dont think "im broken, so it's okay if i cant do something" i think "im broken, so i can't do anything, and i have to die"
Do you feel like the latter is caused this 'no return' mindset or do you think that its something else that makes you depressed that then modifies the "im broken, so it's okay if i cant do something" into the other one? Blaming the wrong thing might make healing a little harder. I won't pretend like im some stoic monk and i do have my fair share depressed alcohol binges with the same exact thought but when i am like that i feel like it helps not to immediately blame yourself as hard as that sounds. Even if help seems an eternity away or not there in the first place think 'doesn't matter, it'll bee better some day' instead of something negative about you and even if not by a lot it does help.
>what do you mean?
Being bullied, stressed, etc. There are people that right now have that 'no return' mindset that wouldn't have it if they were treated better even if they still 'don't fit' and are 'weird'. I see plenty of these fortunate people all the time. They still have their fair share of problems but feel well integrated with the rest.
>yeah, i was referring to something of that extent
its really difficult to differentiate the two. Especially if you don't know what makes you unable to do some things which over time causes you to think you cannot do anything at all.
>mostly what it takes for a mind to completely give up hope, or convince themselves there is nothing to do
Needs to feel like constant unexplainable failure which leads to learned helplessness. Important thing is however that you are not actually helpless. You *will* get better be it on your own or with help from others.
First things first is to stop blaming yourself like that. Your life will get nicer, think about that instead. You are not at fault for being this way so please. Yes you can change this habit, i believe in you.
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>>82276883
>maybe these smallish things aren't actually small at all
maybe sometimes but very very often they are very tiny actually. No need to ovethink this either ;)
>proven that there's no helping my situation
A man in a suit disagreeing with you is proof that there is no helping you? Not at all? Not even another more reasonable doctor? There are billions things to try. Don't let one person telling you 'no' forget that.
>how so? I can only speak from experience but letting these thoughts go to far made me feel really guilty for not trying to fix them earlier nothing happened thankfully but still. Doesn't matter what they are about or even if even you have yet to act on them, simply having them is an enormous drain on who you are. Even with nothing happening and you resisting them with a 100% success rate they cause indirect severe secondary symptoms which at some point also get too much. This plague on your mind should not be tolerated. Repressing is not enough but all out war on it needs to be fought.
>do they become more strict and such if you've hurt yourself in the past or worse?
No not really more strict. Psychology is more like a nurture type thing than a punishing one. They will just be more careful and use more methods to help. I told them the same thing about these feelings. I always was a free man, they just work a little different. Actually go into depth when they see that their surface level things don't work. Put up actual diagnoses instead of 'its le depression, take these SSRIs :D' and give therapy for them. But they do these things anyways. Just that telling them how you actually feel helps them see that you are not a drama queen and actually have issues to be fixed. In my experience of course.
>but i dont think it does to anyone else especially employers.
tsk. The opinions of a normgroid slave should no influence you. These people are at most a source of money. Don't take their feelings to heart.
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>maybe these smallish things aren't actually small at all
maybe sometimes but very very often they are very tiny actually. No need to ovethink this either ;)
>proven that there's no helping my situation
A man in a suit disagreeing with you is proof that there is no helping you? Not at all? Not even another more reasonable doctor? There are billions things to try. Don't let one person telling you 'no' forget that.
>how so? I can only speak from experience but letting these thoughts go to far made me feel really guilty for not trying to fix them earlier nothing happened thankfully but still. Doesn't matter what they are about or even if even you have yet to act on them, simply having them is an enormous drain on who you are. Even with nothing happening and you resisting them with a 100% success rate they cause indirect severe secondary symptoms which at some point also get too much. This plague on your mind should not be tolerated. Repressing is not enough but all out war on it needs to be fought.
>do they become more strict and such if you've hurt yourself in the past or worse?
No not really more strict. Psychology is more like a nurture type thing than a punishing one. They will just be more careful and use more methods to help. I told them the same thing about these feelings. I always was a free man, they just work a little different. Actually go into depth when they see that their surface level things don't work. Put up actual diagnoses instead of 'its le depression, take these SSRIs :D' and give therapy for them. But they do these things anyways. Just that telling them how you actually feel helps them see that you are not a drama queen and actually have issues to be fixed. In my experience of course.
>but i dont think it does to anyone else especially employers.
tsk. The opinions of a normgroid slave should no influence you. These people are at most a source of money. Don't take their feelings to heart.
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