>>513600299
>Nobody claims the universe popped out of nothing[...]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWyN7Jlulo8

Wrong. Atheists do that in regard to the Big Bang theory, which by the way got its name as a pejorative way of referring to Catholic priest, physicist and mathematician Georges Lemaître's "hypothesis of the primeval atom", which I think he may have developed or explored partly due to atheistic assertions from his own time that the universe had always existed.

>The intelligent design hipothesis has no verifiable proof.

I literally referenced a good book about scientific creationism, and have offered other sources in this thread worth checking out (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-FcnLsF1)...

But you can also watch --> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCBHNDTEgWk

Your last sentence doesn't make sense to me and made me think you're not really paying attention to my arguments. What straw-man? "It is not evident", then explain why picrel exists as an awesome repeating pattern in an ideal world, why DNA acts like a programming language, the cosmological constant or why the Fibonacci sequence exists. How could these things just appear out of nothing, for no reason, out of materialistic chaos?

Yes, I still believe the burden of proof false on someone claiming our world popped out of nothing for no reason, or acting like it, given previous reasons for a Supreme Creator who has also revealed Himself in the Bible, which contains historical documents and archaelogical references that are verifiable today, like in and near Jerusalem. Out of nothing, nothing comes. There must be an uncaused cause and a first mover above natural laws.