>>513604037
Yeah, things like justice and honesty tend to benefit society, but corrupt societies exist where fair play cooperation doesn't mean more progress, better birth rates and so on. Have you seen North Korea? Have you taken a look at Japanese birth rates? You ignored my previous argument about murdering, cheating, stealing and lying being compatible with reproductive success and survival, which are states that can be achieved morally or immorally.

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