>>283281519
Like I said in a previous post, there is currently this whole ridiculous notion that anything that isn't "man vs man conflict with explicit win-or-lose tension" is deemed "not real stakes" and thus automatically makes it "self-insert wish-fulfillment power-fantasy" and all sorts of other buzzwords, which in reality is just people wanting to pretend that their own preferred fiction is somehow "high-brow recreation" that's elevated above other fiction despite the fact that, except for case-studies for actual educational purposes, all fiction is fiction, i.e. a "time-waster" and those people just refuse to acknowledge that, which makes them create these false dichotomies that use made-up clearly subjective traits as points of distinction that ignore the traits that have usually been used to evaluate quality of fictional works.

Note how when evaluating isekai in particular, people have been talking about (usually very superficial) "tropes" as the main point, which is utterly ridiculous because tropes have never been a way to evaluate anything ever before, as the usual criteria are usually story, characters, world-building, etc. as well as lyrical tools and such, and not "tropes and clichés". So it's different rules for thee and not for me. If you argue about the tropes or their absence you have already been pulled into a dishonest game that you can only lose. The only argument they'll have is circular logic bullshit like "hurr hurr isekai could not possible have any clever stories/characters/narratives ever because it's isekai!" and the like.

>>281676293
Isekai is good though.

>>280919289
>>280920951
See? That's the selling point of OP MCs or even just "strong" MCs in general.
With weak or completely powerless MCs (excluding high-charisma MCs and keikaku-master MCs because they are still OP MCs in a different sense) you have the problem that they are just getting dragged around by those who are powerful or those who possess authority, because they should be. If they somehow aren't, then that's in most cases bound to bad writing because while things conveniently working out for weakling MCs to remain independent and proactive might work for a limited time, but if you try to sell the independent weakling MC across a long stretch of a story, it just doesn't seem believable, period.

Constant underdog MCs with "level-scaling" antagonists where the MC always ends up winning the overall conflict anyway (i.e. "battle shounen") are even worse though. You can only say so many times that the MC has average talent while downplaying the super talented antagonists who are conveniently super lazy and never work hard. Sooner or later a "motivated" antagonist has to appear, but then working hard might no longer suffice for the MC, so what happens? Oh, it turns out that the MC was secretly of a highest-quality super-special bloodline all along, it just happened to also be dormant! Wow, how motivating for MUH hardwork, in the end you still needed the talent or you'll fall behind short sooner or later, huh?

>>280441699
But he showed me that isekai is good. So of course I am thankful to him.

>>280341727
No, no, the one who has to be thankful is me, after all you showed me that what seemingly makes isekai bad... actually makes isekai good!