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Oh I forgot to mention, the reason why rising being a hero shooter is okay is because destiny players know some lorefag characters even if they don't actively read it, the IP is heavily based around known and established characters. Most destiny fans know who kabr and jolder are and would be elated to play as them, or even just see them talk and fight in the game. Marathon being a hero shooter would be worse than whatever it is now because no one wants to play a ragtag group of random ugly faggots and technodykes no one's ever heard of before. Concord could have been a destiny game and it wouldn't have been completely shit. They already had two ogre fat fuck cabal looking characters but they made them look gay and stupid instead of cool like the cabal.